Hi everyone,
SPM came at the begging of the project, so the design document was spread into several small pieces as features.
Now it is a chance to provide an overall document as we are going to have significant feature updates for FFM 1.1.
Here is the draft of the design document:
https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m/+/9928
This document is trying to address the overall design for 1.1 much. It based on FFM 1.1 update alpha stage document. Several points:
* I want to publish this document public earlier for a quick taste, even though some features are not introduced yet (such as MMIOVEC), so there defecation would be some missing items, and I would keep updating recently.
* Meanwhile, I would collect feedbacks from you and update them into the design document, too.
* Prototype would be performed to see the situation.
* In this document I am trying to tell the conclusion directly instead of go over the conceptual items described in FF-M. If you can not find background either in this document or in the specification please tell me, I would try to add the missing part. Or if you think some text is quite redundant, tell me and I would remove the without hesitation.
The 1.1 specification (alpha): https://developer.arm.com/documentation/aes0039/latest
Please provide your feedback - both mailing list and patch are welcome (in the patch is more welcome, as there may be long discussions so patch comment is easier to be tracked).
Thanks!
/Ken
Hi Anton,
I would like to discuss the linker script integration things, would summarized the situation and potential improvement plan.
/Ken
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Hi,
The next Technical Forum is planned on Thursday, May 13, 15:00-16:00 UTC (US time zone).
Please reply on this email with your proposals for agenda topics.
Recording and slides of previous meetings are here:
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Anton
Hi,
The next Technical Forum is planned on Thursday, May 13, 15:00-16:00 UTC (US time zone).
Please reply on this email with your proposals for agenda topics.
Recording and slides of previous meetings are here:
https://www.trustedfirmware.org/meetings/tf-m-technical-forum/
Best regards,
Anton
Hi Jamie,
The patch has been reviewed and merged.
Thanks.
Regards,
David Wang
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Subject: Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi,
Would it be possible to get some quick reviews on some fixes and a missing file for our board at https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m/+/9882 please?
Thanks,
Jamie
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Subject: Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi,
TF-M release cadence is 4 month. In theory 1.4 release is around July.
Tamas
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Subject: Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi Minos/David/Shebu,
Many thanks for the details. Is there a timeframe in mind for the next major release of TF-M i.e. version 1.4?
Thanks,
Jamie
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Subject: Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi Jamie,
My understanding is that Zephyr integrates release tags of TF-M. TF-M v1.2 was integrated and I assume v1.3 will be done sometime soon.
Regards,
Shebu
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Subject: Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi Jaime,
Anton and I have reviewed your patch. Please check our comments on the patch.
I believe other reviewers will provide their input as well soon.
Although it is difficult to guarantee the timeframe in TF-M as in other open-source project, it will speed up the review process if reviewers’ comments can be addressed in time. 😊
Best regards,
Hu Ziji
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Subject: Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi Jamie,
Thank you very much for your interest in supporting for TF-M in your platform. Since you are contributing a new platform, I would recommend that you read the Trusted Firmware maintenance process<https://developer.trustedfirmware.org/w/collaboration/project-maintenance-p…>, for further details on the process.
To answer your questions about the timeframe, that really depends on various factors, such as how busy the maintainers of this code are, weather there is a release pending which would follow a code freeze, and how complicated the changes are. I don't believe it is easy to estimate a figure.
Regards,
Minos
________________________________
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Subject: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi,
I submitted a patch to add our board to the Trusted Firmware-M repository under https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m/+/9508 and was wondering on timeframes for receiving comments or having the pull request accepted? We want to have our board added to Zephyr RTOS and for that, we need the board in TF-M and pulled into the Zephyr version of this repository (I’m not sure if they can pull any version of the code or if they only pull full release versions e.g. 1.3.0), are there any comments on this and does anyone have any idea of a rough estimate the time required from now to get the base files into the zephyr version of the repository so we can submit our boards file?
Thanks,
Jamie
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Hi Shebu,
Just as a FYI TF-M 1.3 has already been integrated into Zephyr and will be
part of the 2.6.0 release, scheduled for the end of the month.
If TF-M 1.4 happens in July, that will likely be the version that Zephyr
2.7.0 will likely use, which will be an LTS release.
Kevin
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 18:57, Shebu Varghese Kuriakose via TF-M <
tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> wrote:
> Hi Jamie,
>
>
>
> My understanding is that Zephyr integrates release tags of TF-M. TF-M v1.2
> was integrated and I assume v1.3 will be done sometime soon.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Shebu
>
>
>
> *From:* TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> * On Behalf Of *David
> Hu via TF-M
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 13, 2021 3:14 AM
> *To:* tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
> *Cc:* nd <nd(a)arm.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
>
>
>
> Hi Jaime,
>
>
>
> Anton and I have reviewed your patch. Please check our comments on the
> patch.
>
> I believe other reviewers will provide their input as well soon.
>
> Although it is difficult to guarantee the timeframe in TF-M as in other
> open-source project, it will speed up the review process if reviewers’
> comments can be addressed in time. 😊
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Hu Ziji
>
>
>
> *From:* TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> *On Behalf Of *Minos
> Galanakis via TF-M
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 13, 2021 12:09 AM
> *To:* tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
> *Cc:* nd <nd(a)arm.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
>
>
>
> Hi Jamie,
>
>
>
> Thank you very much for your interest in supporting for TF-M in your
> platform. Since you are contributing a new platform, I would recommend that
> you read the Trusted Firmware maintenance process
> <https://developer.trustedfirmware.org/w/collaboration/project-maintenance-p…>,
> for further details on the process.
>
>
>
> To answer your questions about the timeframe, that really depends on
> various factors, such as how busy the maintainers of this code are, weather
> there is a release pending which would follow a code freeze, and how
> complicated the changes are. I don't believe it is easy to estimate a
> figure.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Minos
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> on behalf of Jamie
> Mccrae via TF-M <tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org>
> *Sent:* 12 April 2021 09:40
> *To:* tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org <tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org>
> *Subject:* [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I submitted a patch to add our board to the Trusted Firmware-M repository
> under https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m/+/9508
> and was wondering on timeframes for receiving comments or having the pull
> request accepted? We want to have our board added to Zephyr RTOS and for
> that, we need the board in TF-M and pulled into the Zephyr version of this
> repository (I’m not sure if they can pull any version of the code or if
> they only pull full release versions e.g. 1.3.0), are there any comments on
> this and does anyone have any idea of a rough estimate the time required
> from now to get the base files into the zephyr version of the repository so
> we can submit our boards file?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jamie
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Hi,
Would it be possible to get some quick reviews on some fixes and a missing file for our board at https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m/+/9882 please?
Thanks,
Jamie
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Sent: 14 April 2021 08:35
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Cc: nd <nd(a)arm.com>
Subject: Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi,
TF-M release cadence is 4 month. In theory 1.4 release is around July.
Tamas
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Sent: 2021. április 14., szerda 8:10
To: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
Subject: Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi Minos/David/Shebu,
Many thanks for the details. Is there a timeframe in mind for the next major release of TF-M i.e. version 1.4?
Thanks,
Jamie
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Cc: nd <nd(a)arm.com<mailto:nd@arm.com>>
Subject: Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi Jamie,
My understanding is that Zephyr integrates release tags of TF-M. TF-M v1.2 was integrated and I assume v1.3 will be done sometime soon.
Regards,
Shebu
From: TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org<mailto:tf-m-bounces@lists.trustedfirmware.org>> On Behalf Of David Hu via TF-M
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Cc: nd <nd(a)arm.com<mailto:nd@arm.com>>
Subject: Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi Jaime,
Anton and I have reviewed your patch. Please check our comments on the patch.
I believe other reviewers will provide their input as well soon.
Although it is difficult to guarantee the timeframe in TF-M as in other open-source project, it will speed up the review process if reviewers’ comments can be addressed in time. 😊
Best regards,
Hu Ziji
From: TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org<mailto:tf-m-bounces@lists.trustedfirmware.org>> On Behalf Of Minos Galanakis via TF-M
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Cc: nd <nd(a)arm.com<mailto:nd@arm.com>>
Subject: Re: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi Jamie,
Thank you very much for your interest in supporting for TF-M in your platform. Since you are contributing a new platform, I would recommend that you read the Trusted Firmware maintenance process<https://developer.trustedfirmware.org/w/collaboration/project-maintenance-p…>, for further details on the process.
To answer your questions about the timeframe, that really depends on various factors, such as how busy the maintainers of this code are, weather there is a release pending which would follow a code freeze, and how complicated the changes are. I don't believe it is easy to estimate a figure.
Regards,
Minos
________________________________
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Subject: [TF-M] Timeframe on release/approval
Hi,
I submitted a patch to add our board to the Trusted Firmware-M repository under https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m/+/9508 and was wondering on timeframes for receiving comments or having the pull request accepted? We want to have our board added to Zephyr RTOS and for that, we need the board in TF-M and pulled into the Zephyr version of this repository (I’m not sure if they can pull any version of the code or if they only pull full release versions e.g. 1.3.0), are there any comments on this and does anyone have any idea of a rough estimate the time required from now to get the base files into the zephyr version of the repository so we can submit our boards file?
Thanks,
Jamie
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I think at the moment that wouldn't get caught by the flow control countermeasures. However, we did have an idea for an improvement (which didn't get implemented), that should resolve it.
At the moment, calling a function with FIH_CALL increases the flow control counter by 1. The alternative we considered was to instead increase the counter by a value that was generated based on the function that was called.
Exactly how to generate this number is tricky, since we can't really implement a proper hash function in the preprocessor. The compromise we came to was that we could increase it by sizeof(__func__), (the length of the function name). This is accessible to both the call and the ret, and should be reasonably easily implementable. This wouldn't solve your issue immediately, but one function could then be renamed to be of different length.
Another alternative is that you could manually increment and check the flow-control counter, though having to do that manually isn't ideal.
Do either of these options seem reasonable?
Raef
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Sent: 30 April 2021 13:55
To: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
Subject: [TF-M] [FIH lib] : fih question on a specific fault injection
Hello
I start using FIH library and I doubt that it can solve following fault injection :
Here are 2 tests function being placed by linker very closed from each other to make possible
to jump from test_1 start address to test_2 start address with a fault injection.
fih_int test_1(void)
{
fih_int fih_rc = FIH_FAILURE;
fih_rc = fih_int_encode(TFM_PLAT_ERR_SUCCESS);
FIH_RET(fih_rc);
}
fih_int test_2(void)
{
fih_int fih_rc = FIH_FAILURE;
fih_rc = fih_int_encode(TFM_PLAT_ERR_SUCCESS);
FIH_RET(fih_rc);
}
Is the following able to detect that code return from test_2 instead of test_1 after such fault ?
FIH_CALL(test_1());
if (fih_not_eq(fih_rc, fih_int_encode(TFM_HAL_SUCCESS))) {
tfm_core_panic();
}
Best regards
Michel
Hello
I start using FIH library and I doubt that it can solve following fault injection :
Here are 2 tests function being placed by linker very closed from each other to make possible
to jump from test_1 start address to test_2 start address with a fault injection.
fih_int test_1(void)
{
fih_int fih_rc = FIH_FAILURE;
fih_rc = fih_int_encode(TFM_PLAT_ERR_SUCCESS);
FIH_RET(fih_rc);
}
fih_int test_2(void)
{
fih_int fih_rc = FIH_FAILURE;
fih_rc = fih_int_encode(TFM_PLAT_ERR_SUCCESS);
FIH_RET(fih_rc);
}
Is the following able to detect that code return from test_2 instead of test_1 after such fault ?
FIH_CALL(test_1());
if (fih_not_eq(fih_rc, fih_int_encode(TFM_HAL_SUCCESS))) {
tfm_core_panic();
}
Best regards
Michel
Hi Suresh,
Secure Enclave and dual-cpu so far only support IPC model.
Therefore Profile Medium and Profile Large can run on SE and dual-cpu platforms.
Besides, Profile Large by default enables Fault Injection Hardening library. It requires platform to support Fault Injection Hardening.
The secure firmware binary size may vary with different underlying inter-core communication and assigned resources.
Best regards,
Hu Ziji
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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 3:40 PM
To: Suresh.Marisetty(a)infineon.com; tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
Cc: nd <nd(a)arm.com>
Subject: Re: [TF-M] Questions on Musca-B1 SE implementation
Hi Suresh,
Here is a link how to build images to Musca-B1 SE:
https://git.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git/tree/platform/e…
I have built with GCC and MinSizeRel build type:
Profile Medium:
Memory region Used Size Region Size %age Used
FLASH: 101464 B 381 KB 26.01%
RAM: 61304 B 64 KB 93.54%
[100%] Built target tfm_s
Profile Large:
Memory region Used Size Region Size %age Used
FLASH: 170448 B 381 KB 43.69%
RAM: 62980 B 64 KB 96.10%
[ 97%] Built target tfm_s
The profiles means different capabilities of TF-M, they were introduced to support constrained devices as well, with limited capability.
There is a detailed description about the profiles here:
https://git.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git/tree/docs/techn…
BR,
Tamas
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Sent: 2021. április 29., csütörtök 21:49
To: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org<mailto:tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org>
Subject: [TF-M] Questions on Musca-B1 SE implementation
I am following up on a question that came up on the TFM Core and MCUBoot image sizes that is built for SE on Musca-B1.
We are trying to figure out the resource requirements for SE, to be able to host the TF-M as suggested in the slides below. Wondering if anyone throw more light on the RAM/FLASH requirements for it.
Also, does the TFM profile small/medium/large map to this at all or is it different from them. Also, what's are the estimated latencies of boot on SE with all the Flash accesses, etc.
https://www.trustedfirmware.org/docs/Musca-B1-Secure-Enclave-Solution.pdfhttps://git.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git/tree/platform/e…
Any info on this would be appreciated.
thanks
Suresh Marisetty
Infineon Semiconductor Corporation
I am following up on a question that came up on the TFM Core and MCUBoot image sizes that is built for SE on Musca-B1.
We are trying to figure out the resource requirements for SE, to be able to host the TF-M as suggested in the slides below. Wondering if anyone throw more light on the RAM/FLASH requirements for it.
Also, does the TFM profile small/medium/large map to this at all or is it different from them. Also, what's are the estimated latencies of boot on SE with all the Flash accesses, etc.
https://www.trustedfirmware.org/docs/Musca-B1-Secure-Enclave-Solution.pdfhttps://git.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git/tree/platform/e…
Any info on this would be appreciated.
thanks
Suresh Marisetty
Infineon Semiconductor Corporation
