Hi all,
Please be noted that the TF-M example Secure Partition has been moved from the tf-m-tools repo to the tf-m-extras<https://git.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/tf-m-extras.git/tree/examples/example_…> repo.
It has also been aligned with the latest TF-M. The documentations are improved as well.
It could be a good reference for Secure Partition developer starters.
Best Regards,
Kevin
Hello,
The project documentation will never be ideal and we are continuing improving it.
Let me ask you for reply to this email with the pain points you have experienced or suggestions for improvements to be considered in this phase.
Your direct contribution with docs articles will be much appreciated too. For example: TF-M debugging technics and experience would be very helpful.
Thank you in advance,
Anton
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Hi all,
This is now happening - fully support non-CMake use of the manifest tool.
Here is the patch:
https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m/+/15756
With this patch, the manifest tool takes build configurations from a config header file instead of replying on the build system.
Please check the details in the patch.
Any comments are welcome.
Best Regards,
Kevin
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> If there are strong requirements on supporting the non-cmake usecase
Yes, it is 😉
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Well, I think I figured out a way to decouple them.
If there are strong requirements on supporting the non-cmake usecase, I can try to work it out.
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Kevin
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Yes.
The manifest tool is now fully replying on CMake (it has been, since I introduced the conditional parsing of manifests around half a year ago).
It needs to be aware of the build configurations.
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Kevin
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Hey Kevin
Does this mean that cmake will be required to generate the headers/etc from the manifests?
I believe in the past we deliberately supported the non-cmake usecase, as some people were building TF-M in alternate ways.
Raef
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Hi,
Is there anyone using environment variables for the "manifest" attribute in out-of-tree manifest lists?
I'm asking because I'm working to support configurable stack_size for Secure Partitions<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Freview.tr…>.
In the patch the support of environment variables in manifest lists is removed<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Freview.tr…>.
Because I have to call the CMake command configure_file to replace the stack_size symbols (CMake variables<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Freview.tr…> surrounded with "@") with their values.
While configure_file does not recognize environment variables.
If you do have environment variables in manifest list, there is an alternative:
Replace the env. variables with CMake variables surrounded with "@" and set the value of the CMake variables in either config files or command line inputs.
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Hi,
What was the intended usage of psa_reset_key_attribute(*attributes) which requires a PSA call from non-secure side to reset the client attributes? I am curious because the attributes to be reset comes from the non-secure memory, not directly associated with ITS/PS.
The current IPC setup performs a PSA call to tfm_crypto_rest_key_attributes()(https://git.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trust…
This function creates a copy of client key attribute in a secure key attribute structure. The secure key attribute is reset (set to 0) and then copied back to the client key attribute before returning to non-secure code. At first glance, this seems like a roundabout way to zeorise client side attributes.
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Archanaa
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In https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/archives/list/tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.… Ken mentions the need for a special flag in the manifest to indicate a non-secure agent partition. The code change is fairly easy, I think, but the manifest file format is specified by PSA, and presumably would also need to change.
How do we go about doing that?
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We'd like to merge https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m/+/15362 which makes a small modification to all platform configs (TFM_CONFIG_USE_TRUSTZONE and TFM_MULTI_CORE_TOPOLOGY lose their default values and must be specified for every platform).
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Hi Everyone,
We presented a proposal at the Tech Forum yesterday to take the LTS idea forward. The recording link and password are provided below.
This effort is important for the project, and we don't want to rush into something that is not useful. With holidays and other engagements, we want to provide more time to digest the information and provide feedback. We will schedule another Tech forum discussion in September to hear feedback/concerns/questions.
See you soon!
-Varun
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Hi Everyone,
I learnt today that our peer project (TF-M) are having a similar LTS discussion and have their own LTS Tech forum session tomorrow.
Its an 8am BST(GMT+1) meeting start but I'm told the LTS discussion is mid agenda so expect the discussion on that to start around 8:30am. I'm told it's an information gathering session rather than a proposal session.
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Subject: Re: [TF-A] Re: Rebooting LTS discussion
Thanks Varun and Okash. I'll update Jul 14th invite and add LTS as the discussion area.
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Subject: RE: [TF-A] Re: Rebooting LTS discussion
Hi Joanna,
Thanks for the update. Okash and I would be ready by July 14. We will prepare the slides for the session.
-Varun
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Okash, Varun,
Any thoughts when you want to do a LTS TechForum session. 30th June is now taken and the next scheduled one after that is 14th July. We could try and do a special one on 7th July if that's better.
I'm reliant on you guys to jointly prepare and present a LTS TF-A Tech forum session
Joanna
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Subject: [TF-A] Re: Rebooting LTS discussion
Hi Okash,
The next session after next week is Thursday 30th June at 4pm BST. This is also available with nothing currently scheduled.
Joanna
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Subject: Re: [TF-A] Re: Rebooting LTS discussion
Hi Joanna and Varun,
Sounds good to me. I will be out of country during next week. After that should be fine.
Thanks,
Okash
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:13 PM Joanna Farley <Joanna.Farley(a)arm.com<mailto:Joanna.Farley@arm.com>> wrote:
Varun, Okash, I believe the two of you have some interest in the LTS topic. Would the two of you be willing to jointly prepare and present a TF-A Tech forum session? The next available session is Thursday 16th June at 4pm BST.
I'm sure there are many definitions of what a LTS release branch is in terms of purpose, content, duration etc. I would expect many platform providers are doing this downstream today and I could imagine there may be variations. Some degree of consensus on how this is managed and resourced would be needed I believe between multiple platform providers who would want to consume this.
It would be good to see issues raised for discussion.
I'm happy to host if the two of you and any other platform providers interested can prepare a TF-A session to present to the broader TF-A community.
Thanks
Joanna
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Subject: [TF-A] Re: Rebooting LTS discussion
Hi Matteo/Okash,
Thanks for re-starting the discussion. We (NVIDIA) are still interested in the idea and would like to discuss the next steps. I like the idea of a hotfix release, although would propose back-porting fixes to more tags.
A targeted tech forum or another mechanism works for me. I would like to discuss the scope of the activity and the engagement model.
-Varun
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Hi Okash,
Thanks for rebooting the conversation.
Out of the brainstorming from 1.5 yrs ago, we had this page published with an initial RFC proposal for LTSs:
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Worth mentioning that, in the meanwhile, the TF-M project has introduced the concept of Hotfix releases (which is a very lightweight process for backporting critical bug fix/security fixes only to the last available tagged release):
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftf-m-user…<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftf-m-user…>
I'm curious to hear others' opinion and interest (@Varun, @Raghu ?) to possibly revive this topic in either in a Tech Forum or at a project TSC/Board level.
Thanks
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Hi everyone,
TFM manifest files allow to specify priority for the partition. FFM 1.0 and FFM 1.1 specify that there are 3 possible values for this field: Low, NORMAL, HIGH.
This field is used in several template files to generate needed for SPM information. From what I see there are several problems with current implementation:
1. In secure_fw/spm/cmsis_func/tfm_spm_db_func.inc.template priority field is used to generate .partition_priority filed of spm_partition_static_data_t structure. It uses TFM_PRIORITY() macro to convert priority to numeric value. The problem is that this field is actually never used, instead all priority checking is done using .flags field of partition_{{manifest.name|lower}}_load_info_t structure (tools/templates/partition_load_info.template file).
2. .flags field uses PARTITION_PRI_ macro to convert priority to numeric value. Possible values for TFM_PRIORITY() are: LOW, NORMAL, HIGH, but PARTITION_PRI_ macro has: LOWES, LOW, NORMAL, HIGH, HIGHEST priorities. More over priorities with same names for these 2 macros have different numeric values (e.g. PARTITION_PRI_LOW is 0x7F while TFM_PRIORITY_LOW is 0xFF)
3. Scatter files does not account for HIGHEST priority (see code here<https://git.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git/tree/platform/e…>). This is a problem for all toolchains including both common scatter files (L1 and L2) and scatter files templates for L3
So I have several questions on this topic:
1. Are LOWEST and HIGHEST priorities system reserved? Because for now they cant be used in manifest files as TFM_PRIORITY() does not have support them.
2. Should TFM_PRIORITY() macro and .partition_priority filed of spm_partition_static_data_t structure be removed? This will mean that if LOWEST and HIGHEST priorities are system reserved then validation of value for "priority" manifest field should be added to tfm_parse_manifest_list.py
3. Should scatter files be fixed to account for HIGHEST priority?
4. secure_fw/partitions/ns_agent_tz/load_info_ns_agent_tz.c for NS agent TZ specifies (PARTITION_PRI_LOWEST - 1) for a .flags filed. Higher priority numeric values is lower real priority, which means that TZ NS agent partition priority is between LOW and LOWEST priority. This seems like a hack to me, maybe we should introduce One more named priority?
5. In secure_fw/partitions/CMakeLists.txt idle partition is included when IPC backend is used. Idle partition is used to retrigger scheduling before going into WFI state (just to be sure that higher priority partitions were executed and there is not pending request). I can see how this partition is useful for MULTICORE case, to have kind of sleep state. But for TZ case TZ ns agent is always RUNNABLE and have higher priority that IDLE partition so it does not look like IDLE partition will ever be scheduled in TZ case.
In such case condition in this Cmake file should be changed from "if (CONFIG_TFM_SPM_BACKEND_IPC)" to "if (TFM_PARTITION_NS_AGENT_MAILBOX)"
Am I wrong somewhere?
Sorry, I know that is a lot of questions, but this scheduling stuff is really hard to wrap a head around.
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Bohdan Hunko
Cypress Semiconductor Ukraine
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