Hi George,
The ITS without encryption is not a compromised RoT. In the PSA Secure Storage API spec, the PSA Internal Trust Storage aims at providing a place for devices to store their most intimate secrets. Also
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1. The storage underlying the PSA Internal Trusted Storage Service MUST be protected from read and modification by attackers with physical access to the device.
2. The storage underlying the PSA Internal Trusted Storage Service MUST be protected from direct read or write access from software partitions outside of the PSA Root of Trust (PRoT).
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So, for internal trusted storage service, it requires the underlying storage itself should provide being read or write protection. The storage area should be a “trusted” area. Does the storage area on your device meet this requirement? Is the memory physically isolated? If not, I wonder why not uses the Protected Storage service instead?
For the design of adding encryption in ITS, in the PS partition, the `iv` and the encrypted object data are stored with the object file while the tag of each object is stored with the object table file. So, if encrypt the PS object in the ITS file system, how the PS partition get the `tag` of each object? After a rough thought, I think probably a standalone encryption for ITS is more reasonable.
As this is a relatively “big topic”, would you like to hold a discussion on the TF-M Tech forum if it is not limited by confidential information? The next Tech forum will be hold on this Thursday 3:00 PM UTC time.
Regards,
Sherry Zhang
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Subject: Re: [TF-M] Supporting encryption with ITS
Hello Sherry,
Thank you for your input!
1. Our threat model is more concerned about attacks which can happen very early in the boot process, I think. A completely compromised RoT is not in our threat model.
2. I see that, ITS is supposed to store small objects. The storage overhead of adding encryption will be probably bigger than 20 bytes I think but the intention is to have this only as a configuration, not as the default option.
3. Agreed, a HAL API should be used for this.
Do you have any opinion on the design of it? Do you think that it adds value to do try to use a common design for the object handling of both PS and ITS or is it better to have it as a standalone thing for the ITS.
Regards,
George
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Subject: RE: [TF-M] Supporting encryption with ITS
Hi George,
Some comments from my side:
1. Internal trusted storage is part of the Root of Trust domain. If ITS storage device is attacked, then the code flash where the PSA Rot SP locates may also be attacked. Does the thread model of your system require the encryption in ITS?
2. The ITS service is intended to be used to interface to a small piece of storage. Encryption would increase the context for each ITS file. For example, similarly to PS object context, the `IV` which is used in encryption as well as the generated `tag` should be added into each file context. They total together can be about more than 20 bytes.
3. If the encryption is mandatory/ necessary required by the thread model of your system, as discussed, the PSA crypto service should not be called to avoid the circular. I think a HAL API for encryption may be created in ITS for platform implementation defined encryption/decryption.
Regards,
Sherry Zhang
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Subject: Re: [TF-M] Supporting encryption with ITS
Hey Gyorgy,
These are very valuable comments! I am aware of the circular dependency issue because the PSA apis are using the ITS as a storage backend. This, as you said, can be circumvented by using a software crypto library or an implementation specific API. So, for the encryption a flexible API can be used which can allow externals to use their own function calls.
Regarding the key storage, this is what I had in mind as well, using derived keys from the HUK. So that we don't need to store anything but the crypto metadata. Adding another layer of storage will raise more issues, I think.
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Subject: RE: [TF-M] Supporting encryption with ITS
Hi,
AFAIK the main reason for ITS not using encryption is the problem of circular dependency. ITS is used by crypto SP for key storage, so how will crypto fetch the key from ITS to decrypt ITS? You could use a software crypto implementation (another mbed-tls instance) in ITS, but where would you safely store the keys? If you have a two layer ITS, one for only storing the keys for the second instance, and a second, encrypted one, then you end up with something like ITS and PS.
You may not need a full blown on-chip FLASH device for ITS. If you have a HUK available, you can derive the same SP specific keys from that at each boot, and store these in RAM backed ITS. You won’t be able to store other keys in ITS in a persistent way of course, but for that you can use PS. Well, something along these lines.
Perhaps the TF-M team could help better if you could share some details on why your customer would need encrypted ITS. (A PSA for Cortex-A (TS) maintainer chiming in to a “not his business” discussion here 😉 )
/George
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Subject: Re: [TF-M] Supporting encryption with ITS
Hi George,
I’m wondering if that would add value. To my understanding, ITS was never designed to be encrypted because of the way it’s supposed to be set up. (It’s Internal Trusted Storage.) I believe best practice is to place it in a “trusted” location, one that is ideally only accessible from Secure world, and also ideally on-die. If you then restrict outside access to the internal flash (JTAG, flash programmer ports,…), you’re pretty golden, in that no unauthorized party should be able to read from or write to the ITS.*
Let me know if I misunderstand anything about ITS or TrustZone, but that’s my view. Maybe I’m painting an idealized picture.
Greetings,
Fabian Schmidt
* at least short of a sophisticated physical attack or finding some loophole in TrustZone…
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Hey all,
Lately the requirement for an encrypted ITS solution is being asked from our customers and I would like to have a discussion here on how we can design this in a reasonable way. The first thought that came to my mind was to add the functionality to the ITS flash-fs layer. This layer contains file metadata in the its_file_meta_t structure and it should be possible to expand this to include additional crypto metadata (conditionally). This seems to be the less invasive change to me, even though it will introduce some increased memory usage since supporting encryption will mean that we cannot read the data in chunks anymore, we will have to use static buffers.
At the same time, I looked at the PS partition since I knew that it has support for encryption. I believe that some core concepts of both solutions have similarities even though the code is quite different. For example, a file in ITS is similar to an object in PS and the (linear) list of file metadata in ITS is similar to the concept of the object table in PS. So, I think that it should be possible to design some generic-enough APIs that we can use for both the ITS and PS. Even though this will require some major refactoring in both partitions, it will decrease the code of these services which will probably decrease maintenance later.
What are your thoughts on this?
Regards,
George
Hi Chris,
RSS build requires new runtime Measured Boot Service. This service partition is not yet part of PSA specification and hence it resides in the tf-m-extras repository. (https://git.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/tf-m-extras.git/)
For out of tree partition build, if you map the tf-m-extras repo and provideTFM_EXTRA_MANIFEST_LIST_FILES =<path_to_measured_boot_manifest_list.yaml> and TFM_EXTRA_PARTITION_PATHS=<path_to_measured_boot_partition> (example as below), then it should fix build issue.
-DTFM_EXTRA_MANIFEST_LIST_FILES=../../tf-m-extras/partitions/measured_boot/measured_boot_manifest_list.yaml
-DTFM_EXTRA_PARTITION_PATHS=../../tf-m-extras/partitions/measured_boot
If the error persists, could you please send me the build options you are using and I'll look into this further.
Best Regards,
Maulik
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Hi,
I'm wondering what the status of the RSS platform is. I tried to build it from the current HEAD of master and also from a few earlier commits, and cannot get it to build (I get an error about TFM_MEASURED_BOOT_SID being undeclared in some of the generated code).
I was curious about the implementation of tfm_hal_get_mem_security_attr(), tfm_hal_get_secure_access_attr() and tfm_hal_get_ns_access_attr() on an ARMv8 multi-core platform, but there doesn't currently seem to be an implementation of those HAL functions.
Thanks,
Chris Brand
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Hello,
Recently we discussed the movement of relevant options into C header files as a potential configuration improvement.
By this mail thread, I would like to provoke discussion on what else we are lacking in TF-M configurability and thoughts to make it better.
Please share your ideas to review them in the upcoming tech forum.
Thanks,
Anton
Hi,
I'm wondering what the status of the RSS platform is. I tried to build it from the current HEAD of master and also from a few earlier commits, and cannot get it to build (I get an error about TFM_MEASURED_BOOT_SID being undeclared in some of the generated code).
I was curious about the implementation of tfm_hal_get_mem_security_attr(), tfm_hal_get_secure_access_attr() and tfm_hal_get_ns_access_attr() on an ARMv8 multi-core platform, but there doesn't currently seem to be an implementation of those HAL functions.
Thanks,
Chris Brand
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Hello,
when building TF-M you get the same result no matter what
computer you build from assuming all the tooling is the same version.
The builds are reproducible in other words.
But when building TF-M together with the tests, e.g. by building the regression test suite
you will get a different binary depending on where in the filesystem the tf-m-tests repository
has been installed.
This is because the TEST_FAIL macro uses the gcc macro _FILE_ which injects the absolute paths of source files
into strings in the binary.
This is a big problem for people using CI systems as a different sized binary can affect race conditions,
flash region usage overflows, etc..
I think we should make builds reproducible by default, possibly with a configuration for adding absolute paths
into the binary for those that prefer so.
I would like to write a patch to this affect, but would prefer to get some feedback now so I don't have to re-write it in review.
The simplest solution is to remove __FILE__ from the TEST_FAIL macro,but this would remove useful information and may also fail in the future if someone else uses __FILE__.
The more common way of solving this problem is to add a flag to the compiler that instructs it to replace any occurrences of the absolute path with something else during macro expansion. For instance replace "C:/repos/tf-m-tests/source_file.c" with "TFM_TESTS/source_file.c". For gcc the flag is -fmacro-prefix-map=<old_string>=<new_string>. I don't know what the flag is for the other supported compilers or if they support it at all.
Would it be OK to only support reproducible builds for the compilers that support an equivalent of macro-prefix-map?
Hello,
TF-M has many options to configure. All of them are declared as a CMake variables and many of them translated to compiler definitions later.
Since the idea of TF-M configuration via config header file(s) was warmly received on the last tech forum I would like to check with community opinion on such hypothetical move: Configure TF-M via definitions in header files while leave CMake for a building control only.
Please share your thoughts, opinions and the possible dependencies.
Thanks,
Anton
Hello,
The FIH functionality reference implementation on AN521 was there before, and then get turned off last year because it increases the effort of updating the HAL interface.
Now the HAL interface update is done, this functionality is re-enabled on AN521, based on the updated HAL. The patches are pushed for your review:
https://review.trustedfirmware.org/q/topic:%22FIH_AN521_RE%22+(status:open%…
The mechanism is mainly the same as the previous implementation, The document is under modifying to reflect the re-enablement changes but still can be read to recall the general concept:
https://tf-m-user-guide.trustedfirmware.org/technical_references/design_doc…
Please leave your comments in the patches or do overall discussions in this mail thread.
Thanks!
/Ken
Hi All :
I'm developing Flash Driver for TF-M AN524 demo , and trobuled by some code logic .
It's that :
For , AN524 , PS storage Area is redirect to BRAM , so PS area related read and write can be done using memcpy without Flash driver being implementened .
see : platform/ext/target/arm/mps3/an524/cmsis_driver/Driver_Flash.c
/* Redirecting PS storage to BRAM */
if (addr >= FLASH_REDIRECT_BASE && addr <= FLASH_REDIRECT_LIMIT) {
start_addr = FLASH_REDIRECT_DEST + (addr - FLASH_REDIRECT_BASE);
/* PS Flash is emulated over BRAM. use memcpy function. */
memcpy((void *)start_addr, data, cnt);
} else {
/* Flash driver for QSPI is not ready */
return ARM_DRIVER_ERROR_UNSUPPORTED;
}
My question is : What the purpose of "else" branch above ?
After I implement QSPI driver , in "if" branch , I remove redirect operation , and use Flash Write APIs to replace memcpy func. Then , shoud "else" branch be removed?
Or , should I put Flash write driver in "else" branch , and keep "if" branch the same with origion?
Best regards,
Jidong Mei
TF-M includes platform/ext/cmsis, which is CMSIS v5.9.0 with some TF-M-specific changes.
Looking at the history for that directory, it seems that we periodically update it and have to re-apply the TF-M-specific changes (which looks to be the naming of the stack and the copy table size).
I'm wondering whether there's a plan to either push the TF-M changes into upstream CMSIS or to change TF-M so that they're not needed? It would be nice to just pull CMSIS from upstream like we do with other external libraries...
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Hello all,
I made a patch (https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m/+/16214) that reorganize interaction between ITS partition, ITS file system and ITS flash driver.
1. ITS flash driver interface is decoupled from ITS file system.
2. ITS flash driver interface isn't dependent on upper layers like ITS FS or ITS.
3. ITS flash driver emulated in RAM (its_flash_ram) can be used without CMSIS flash driver even in production environment if needed.
4. Target can provide own implementation of ITS flash driver without implementing CMSIS flash driver. Which can be more flexible or simple in some cases.
5. Allocation of ITS flash driver instance by ITS partition is not dependent on lower layers like CMSIS driver. ITS partition uses abstract flash driver interface to bind ITS file system and driver instance.
This changes gives following benefits.
1. Vendors can provide ITS flash driver without need to create an intermediate CMSIS flash driver.
2. It's possible to implement ITS encryption by adding a new ITS flash driver that performs encryption and uses existing drivers (NOR, NAND, RAM, platform specific) as the storage backend.
3. It's possible to use ITS file system + ITS encryption driver (b) for Protected Storage directly without additional context switching during access to PS file system handled by ITS partition. I think it should improve performance of PS.
4. Use ITS file system directly in application specific custom partitions by allocating ITS file system context and ITS flash driver.
Best regards,
Roman.
