Hi,
Just some minor additions. In the TF-M build system Kconfig will most likely generate input for cmake scripts, so the compiler may not have a connection to it.
The original intention with DT is capturing configuration data to allow hardware independent binaries (for defining base address of peripherals, boot information, etc..), and is mostly parsed runtime. In the Cortex-M space this might be a bit out-of scope. Most likely it will be used as a "standard" language to define "retargeting" information, and a tool will be developed which runs compile time and which allows access to the retargeting data for cmake. Something like CMSIS zone, but closer to established open-source technologies.
In multicore systems having bot Cortex-A and M core DT would allow having a consistent solution for both A and M firmware. This is also a reason why cmake is a better build solution for TF-M than CMSIS Build.
/George
From: TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of David Hu via TF-M
Sent: 12 June 2020 11:16
To: Thomas Törnblom <thomas.tornblom(a)iar.com>; tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
Cc: nd <nd(a)arm.com>
Subject: Re: [TF-M] CMake flags
Hi Thomas,
DT is another very attractive topic. TF-M currently doesn't include any DT support.
So maybe there is mixed preprocessing of DT and Kconfig in Zephyr, but Kconfig can be parsed without any compiler.
Best regards,
Hu Ziji
From: Thomas Törnblom <thomas.tornblom(a)iar.com<mailto:thomas.tornblom@iar.com>>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:09 PM
To: David Hu <David.Hu(a)arm.com<mailto:David.Hu@arm.com>>; tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org<mailto:tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org>
Cc: nd <nd(a)arm.com<mailto:nd@arm.com>>
Subject: Re: [TF-M] CMake flags
Perhaps I'm mixing dts and Kconfig up.
In Zephyr, dtc is used to generate output that is run through the gcc preprocessor in assembly mode.
The output from dtc looks like:
---
/dts-v1/;
/ {
��� #address-cells = < 0x1 >;
��� #size-cells = < 0x1 >;
��� model = "STMicroelectronics STM32F746G DISCOVERY board";
��� compatible = "st,stm32f746g-disco", "st,stm32f746";
��� chosen {
��� ��� zephyr,console = &usart1;
��� ��� zephyr,shell-uart = &usart1;
��� ��� zephyr,sram = &sram0;
��� ��� zephyr,flash = &flash0;
��� ��� zephyr,dtcm = &dtcm;
��� };
...
---
Our preprocessor can not be run in assembler mode and it pukes on the "#address-cells" type elements in the file.
If this is not what Kconfig is about, then please ignore my comments.
Thomas
Den 2020-06-12 kl. 09:43, skrev David Hu:
Hi Thomas,
�
I�ve not met such a problem yet. Could you please give more details about the portability issues in Kconfig?
In our PoC, it firstly parses the Kconfig files and then convert the output Kconfig options into CMake flags. Thus the whole process is not related to any compiler.
I checked Zephyr previously. It looks like Zephyr has the similar idea as our PoC does.
�
Best regards,
Hu Ziji
�
From: TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org><mailto:tf-m-bounces@lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Thomas T�rnblom via TF-M
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:36 PM
To: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org<mailto:tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org>
Subject: Re: [TF-M] CMake flags
�
Introducing a dependency on Kconfig may cause portability issues with some toolchains (IAR for instance)
I am working on adding support for the IAR toolchain to Zephyr, and Kconfig is one of the issues I've run into.
At least in Zephyr, the output from Kconfig is run through the C preprocessor and this causes issues with the IAR preprocessor so for now I use gcc for this step.
Thomas
Den 2020-06-12 kl. 07:32, skrev David Hu via TF-M:
Hi Adrian,
�
Actually we have been investigating configuration alternatives and making some prototypes of Kconfig.
�
Kconfig can bring some advantages:
* It can setup configuration and check dependency before CMake starts and therefore it can help CMake simplify dealing with the mutual dependencies. For example, if CPU and arch options can be configured in Kconfig, CMake can avoid the workaround to re-configure compiler after parsing platform files.
* Kconfig can collect together the options which are distributed in various CMake files. Developers can more easily understand the options and their dependencies, compared with searching them all around the build system.
�
But Kconfig may not cover all the flags in command line. Flags such as compiler selections, build type and project config file, may vary in each build. It can be inconvenient to put them into Kconfig.
�
Best regards,
Hu Ziji
�
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Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 12:24 AM
To: Raef Coles <Raef.Coles(a)arm.com><mailto:Raef.Coles@arm.com>
Cc: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org<mailto:tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org>
Subject: [TF-M] CMake flags
�
Hi Raef. Thanks for the presentation today.
�
If I remember correctly, TF-M's CMake has quite a lot of command line flags now (the ones that are set with -D). And I think this will grow in the future as more options are needed.
�
>From a command line point of view, this is kind of annoying because the commands end up being quite long. Do you guys think something like Kconfig could help?
�
Adrian
�
�
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Hi Thomas,
I've not met such a problem yet. Could you please give more details about the portability issues in Kconfig?
In our PoC, it firstly parses the Kconfig files and then convert the output Kconfig options into CMake flags. Thus the whole process is not related to any compiler.
I checked Zephyr previously. It looks like Zephyr has the similar idea as our PoC does.
Best regards,
Hu Ziji
From: TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Thomas Törnblom via TF-M
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:36 PM
To: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
Subject: Re: [TF-M] CMake flags
Introducing a dependency on Kconfig may cause portability issues with some toolchains (IAR for instance)
I am working on adding support for the IAR toolchain to Zephyr, and Kconfig is one of the issues I've run into.
At least in Zephyr, the output from Kconfig is run through the C preprocessor and this causes issues with the IAR preprocessor so for now I use gcc for this step.
Thomas
Den 2020-06-12 kl. 07:32, skrev David Hu via TF-M:
Hi Adrian,
Actually we have been investigating configuration alternatives and making some prototypes of Kconfig.
Kconfig can bring some advantages:
* It can setup configuration and check dependency before CMake starts and therefore it can help CMake simplify dealing with the mutual dependencies. For example, if CPU and arch options can be configured in Kconfig, CMake can avoid the workaround to re-configure compiler after parsing platform files.
* Kconfig can collect together the options which are distributed in various CMake files. Developers can more easily understand the options and their dependencies, compared with searching them all around the build system.
But Kconfig may not cover all the flags in command line. Flags such as compiler selections, build type and project config file, may vary in each build. It can be inconvenient to put them into Kconfig.
Best regards,
Hu Ziji
From: TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org><mailto:tf-m-bounces@lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Adrian Shaw via TF-M
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 12:24 AM
To: Raef Coles <Raef.Coles(a)arm.com><mailto:Raef.Coles@arm.com>
Cc: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org<mailto:tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org>
Subject: [TF-M] CMake flags
Hi Raef. Thanks for the presentation today.
If I remember correctly, TF-M's CMake has quite a lot of command line flags now (the ones that are set with -D). And I think this will grow in the future as more options are needed.
>From a command line point of view, this is kind of annoying because the commands end up being quite long. Do you guys think something like Kconfig could help?
Adrian
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SE-750 23 Uppsala, SWEDEN
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Introducing a dependency on Kconfig may cause portability issues with
some toolchains (IAR for instance)
I am working on adding support for the IAR toolchain to Zephyr, and
Kconfig is one of the issues I've run into.
At least in Zephyr, the output from Kconfig is run through the C
preprocessor and this causes issues with the IAR preprocessor so for now
I use gcc for this step.
Thomas
Den 2020-06-12 kl. 07:32, skrev David Hu via TF-M:
>
> Hi Adrian,
>
> Actually we have been investigating configuration alternatives and
> making some prototypes of Kconfig.
>
> Kconfig can bring some advantages:
>
> * It can setup configuration and check dependency before CMake
> starts and therefore it can help CMake simplify dealing with the
> mutual dependencies. For example, if CPU and arch options can be
> configured in Kconfig, CMake can avoid the workaround to
> re-configure compiler after parsing platform files.
> * Kconfig can collect together the options which are distributed in
> various CMake files. Developers can more easily understand the
> options and their dependencies, compared with searching them all
> around the build system.
>
> But Kconfig may not cover all the flags in command line. Flags such as
> compiler selections, build type and project config file, may vary in
> each build. It can be inconvenient to put them into Kconfig.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Hu Ziji
>
> *From:* TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> *On Behalf Of
> *Adrian Shaw via TF-M
> *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 12:24 AM
> *To:* Raef Coles <Raef.Coles(a)arm.com>
> *Cc:* tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
> *Subject:* [TF-M] CMake flags
>
> Hi Raef. Thanks for the presentation today.
>
> If I remember correctly, TF-M's CMake has quite a lot of command line
> flags now (the ones that are set with -D). And I think this will grow
> in the future as more options are needed.
>
> From a command line point of view, this is kind of annoying because
> the commands end up being quite long. Do you guys think something like
> Kconfig could help?
>
> Adrian
>
>
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IAR Systems AB
Box 23051, Strandbodgatan 1
SE-750 23 Uppsala, SWEDEN
Mobile: +46 76 180 17 80 Fax: +46 18 16 78 01
E-mail: thomas.tornblom(a)iar.com <mailto:thomas.tornblom@iar.com>
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Hi Adrian,
Actually we have been investigating configuration alternatives and making some prototypes of Kconfig.
Kconfig can bring some advantages:
* It can setup configuration and check dependency before CMake starts and therefore it can help CMake simplify dealing with the mutual dependencies. For example, if CPU and arch options can be configured in Kconfig, CMake can avoid the workaround to re-configure compiler after parsing platform files.
* Kconfig can collect together the options which are distributed in various CMake files. Developers can more easily understand the options and their dependencies, compared with searching them all around the build system.
But Kconfig may not cover all the flags in command line. Flags such as compiler selections, build type and project config file, may vary in each build. It can be inconvenient to put them into Kconfig.
Best regards,
Hu Ziji
From: TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Adrian Shaw via TF-M
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 12:24 AM
To: Raef Coles <Raef.Coles(a)arm.com>
Cc: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
Subject: [TF-M] CMake flags
Hi Raef. Thanks for the presentation today.
If I remember correctly, TF-M's CMake has quite a lot of command line flags now (the ones that are set with -D). And I think this will grow in the future as more options are needed.
>From a command line point of view, this is kind of annoying because the commands end up being quite long. Do you guys think something like Kconfig could help?
Adrian
Hi Raef. Thanks for the presentation today.
If I remember correctly, TF-M's CMake has quite a lot of command line flags now (the ones that are set with -D). And I think this will grow in the future as more options are needed.
>From a command line point of view, this is kind of annoying because the commands end up being quite long. Do you guys think something like Kconfig could help?
Adrian
Hello,
Agenda for today's Tech forum:
1. Ongoing MCUboot alignment update.
2. Build system improvements.
Code sharing between bootloader and runtime firmware will be presented on the next call.
Best regards,
Anton
From: TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of David Vincze via TF-M
Sent: 05 June 2020 13:03
To: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
Cc: nd <nd(a)arm.com>
Subject: Re: [TF-M] TF-M Technical Forum call - June 11
Hi,
I also would like to give a brief update on the status of the ongoing MCUboot alignment work.
David V
From: TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org<mailto:tf-m-bounces@lists.trustedfirmware.org>> On Behalf Of Tamas Ban via TF-M
Sent: 05 June 2020 11:23
To: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org<mailto:tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org>
Cc: nd <nd(a)arm.com<mailto:nd@arm.com>>
Subject: Re: [TF-M] TF-M Technical Forum call - June 11
Hi Anton,
I would like to give a short presentation about crypto code sharing between bootloader and runtime firmware(SPE).
Tamas
From: TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org<mailto:tf-m-bounces@lists.trustedfirmware.org>> On Behalf Of Anton Komlev via TF-M
Sent: 03 June 2020 21:21
To: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org<mailto:tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org>
Cc: nd <nd(a)arm.com<mailto:nd@arm.com>>
Subject: [TF-M] TF-M Technical Forum call - June 11
Hello,
The next Technical Forum is planned on Thursday, June 11 at 15:00-16:00 UTC (US time zone).
Please reply on this email with your proposals for agenda topics.
Here are some local time examples:
Location
Local Time
Time Zone
UTC Offset
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Thursday, 11 June 2020, 08:00:00
PDT<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/pdt>
UTC-7 hours
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Thursday, 11 June 2020, 10:00:00
CDT<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/cdt>
UTC-5 hours
Cambridge<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/uk/cambridge> (United Kingdom - England)
Thursday, 11 June 2020, 16:00:00
BST<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/bst>
UTC+1 hour
Shanghai<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/china/shanghai> (China - Shanghai Municipality)
Thursday, 11 June 2020, 23:00:00
CST<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/cst-china>
UTC+8 hours
Corresponding UTC (GMT)
Thursday, 11 June 2020, 15:00:00<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20200611T1500>
Best regards,
Anton Komlev
Hi All,
Just a heads up that TF-Mv1.1 tag is planned for middle to end of July. Code freeze of TF-M master is aimed around end of June to allow enough time for testing.
Similar to TF-Mv1.0 and previous tags, v1.1 will include all TF-M changes in TF-M master available till code freeze in end of June.
Availability of the tag will be notified via. this mailing list.
Thanks,
Shebu
Technology Manager-TF-M, Arm Ltd.
Hi,
In case you meet the same issue as Thomas.
There are two possible solutions from our experience.
One is:
* Abandon both the duplicated changes.
* Change the change-ID of you patch and then submit
* You end up with a whole new patch without the original histories.
In this way, you lose both the change history and review history.
If you are OK with that, you can quick solve the issue by yourself.
Otherwise, the other solution is to contact Benjamin Copeland <ben.copeland(a)linaro.org<mailto:ben.copeland@linaro.org>> to delete one of the duplicates(usually keep the one with histories).
And push your new patch set after deletion.
Best Regards,
Kevin
From: TF-M <tf-m-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Thomas Törnblom via TF-M
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:08 PM
To: tf-m(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
Subject: Re: [TF-M] Gerrit issues
Issue sorted now, thanks to Ben Copeland.
Thomas
Den 2020-06-09 kl. 08:51, skrev Thomas Törnblom via TF-M:
Still having this issue:
---
PS C:\Users\thomasto\Projects\tf-m1\trusted-firmware-m> git push ssh://review.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git HEAD:refs/for/master
Enumerating objects: 208, done.
Counting objects: 100% (207/207), done.
Delta compression using up to 4 threads
Compressing objects: 100% (131/131), done.
Writing objects: 100% (135/135), 16.94 KiB | 1.06 MiB/s, done.
Total 135 (delta 97), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 0
remote: Resolving deltas: 100% (97/97)
remote: Processing changes: refs: 1, done
To ssh://review.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git
! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/for/master (I00fb896d2005eb9e64e5a6869e3d6e1d814d43a7 has duplicates)
error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://review.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git'
---
Any ideas how to resolve?
I guess starting out with a fresh local repo would work, but I have 11 patches waiting to be reviewed and merged.
A handful of them appears to be duplicated, and I abandoned those that appeared to be old and had merge conflicts. Unfortunately a majority of those had already been reviewed and the new ones aren't. The new ones has also lost their reviewers
So now I'm stuck and I can't update or create new patches.
Thomas
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SE-750 23 Uppsala, SWEDEN
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--
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IAR Systems AB
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SE-750 23 Uppsala, SWEDEN
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Issue sorted now, thanks to Ben Copeland.
Thomas
Den 2020-06-09 kl. 08:51, skrev Thomas Törnblom via TF-M:
> Still having this issue:
> ---
> PS C:\Users\thomasto\Projects\tf-m1\trusted-firmware-m> git push
> ssh://review.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git
> HEAD:refs/for/master
> Enumerating objects: 208, done.
> Counting objects: 100% (207/207), done.
> Delta compression using up to 4 threads
> Compressing objects: 100% (131/131), done.
> Writing objects: 100% (135/135), 16.94 KiB | 1.06 MiB/s, done.
> Total 135 (delta 97), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 0
> remote: Resolving deltas: 100% (97/97)
> remote: Processing changes: refs: 1, done
> To ssh://review.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git
> ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/for/master
> (I00fb896d2005eb9e64e5a6869e3d6e1d814d43a7 has duplicates)
> error: failed to push some refs to
> 'ssh://review.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git'
> ---
>
> Any ideas how to resolve?
>
> I guess starting out with a fresh local repo would work, but I have 11
> patches waiting to be reviewed and merged.
>
> A handful of them appears to be duplicated, and I abandoned those that
> appeared to be old and had merge conflicts. Unfortunately a majority
> of those had already been reviewed and the new ones aren't. The new
> ones has also lost their reviewers
>
> So now I'm stuck and I can't update or create new patches.
>
> Thomas
> --
>
> *Thomas Törnblom*, /Product Engineer/
> IAR Systems AB
> Box 23051, Strandbodgatan 1
> SE-750 23 Uppsala, SWEDEN
> Mobile: +46 76 180 17 80 Fax: +46 18 16 78 01
> E-mail: thomas.tornblom(a)iar.com <mailto:thomas.tornblom@iar.com>
> Website: www.iar.com <http://www.iar.com>
> Twitter: www.twitter.com/iarsystems <http://www.twitter.com/iarsystems>
>
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*Thomas Törnblom*, /Product Engineer/
IAR Systems AB
Box 23051, Strandbodgatan 1
SE-750 23 Uppsala, SWEDEN
Mobile: +46 76 180 17 80 Fax: +46 18 16 78 01
E-mail: thomas.tornblom(a)iar.com <mailto:thomas.tornblom@iar.com>
Website: www.iar.com <http://www.iar.com>
Twitter: www.twitter.com/iarsystems <http://www.twitter.com/iarsystems>
Still having this issue:
---
PS C:\Users\thomasto\Projects\tf-m1\trusted-firmware-m> git push
ssh://review.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git
HEAD:refs/for/master
Enumerating objects: 208, done.
Counting objects: 100% (207/207), done.
Delta compression using up to 4 threads
Compressing objects: 100% (131/131), done.
Writing objects: 100% (135/135), 16.94 KiB | 1.06 MiB/s, done.
Total 135 (delta 97), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 0
remote: Resolving deltas: 100% (97/97)
remote: Processing changes: refs: 1, done
To ssh://review.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git
! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/for/master
(I00fb896d2005eb9e64e5a6869e3d6e1d814d43a7 has duplicates)
error: failed to push some refs to
'ssh://review.trustedfirmware.org/TF-M/trusted-firmware-m.git'
---
Any ideas how to resolve?
I guess starting out with a fresh local repo would work, but I have 11
patches waiting to be reviewed and merged.
A handful of them appears to be duplicated, and I abandoned those that
appeared to be old and had merge conflicts. Unfortunately a majority of
those had already been reviewed and the new ones aren't. The new ones
has also lost their reviewers
So now I'm stuck and I can't update or create new patches.
Thomas
--
*Thomas Törnblom*, /Product Engineer/
IAR Systems AB
Box 23051, Strandbodgatan 1
SE-750 23 Uppsala, SWEDEN
Mobile: +46 76 180 17 80 Fax: +46 18 16 78 01
E-mail: thomas.tornblom(a)iar.com <mailto:thomas.tornblom@iar.com>
Website: www.iar.com <http://www.iar.com>
Twitter: www.twitter.com/iarsystems <http://www.twitter.com/iarsystems>
