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by Maxim Uvarov

Hello, I'm trying to understand why "warm reboot" is not currently implemented in TF-A for qemu targets. I.e. in case of qemu armv8 boot atf->optee->uboot->linux and then reboot, cpu jumps to BL31 qemu_system_reset() function which just calls panic(). I'm wondering why loading images from this stage is not happening? Something similar to bl2_load_images()->load_image() to load uboot and optee os again and run them with bl31_main()? If I understand "CPU reset" spec [1] correctly, warm boot from reset vector in BL31 again to Non-Secure world has to work. [1] https://github.com/ARM-software/arm-trusted-firmware/blob/master/docs/desig… Best regards, Maxim.

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Cancelled event with note: TF-A Tech Forum @ Thu 24 Sep 2020 16:00 - 17:00 (BST) (tf-a@lists.trustedfirmware.org)

by Bill Fletcher

This event has been cancelled with this note: "Due to conflicts with Linaro Connect this week we are cancelling this week’s TF-A Techforum on Thursday, 24th September 2020 at 16:00 – 17:00 BST. The next meeting will now be Thursday, 8th October 2020 at 16:00 – 17:00 BST" Title: TF-A Tech Forum We run an open technical forum call for anyone to participate and it is not restricted to Trusted Firmware project members. It will operate under the guidance of the TF TSC. Feel free to forward this invite to colleagues. Invites are via the TF-A mailing list and also published on the Trusted Firmware website. Details are here: https://www.trustedfirmware.org/meetings/tf-a-technical-forum/Tr… Firmware is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.Join Zoom Meetinghttps://zoom.us/j/9159704974Meeting ID: 915 970 4974One tap mobile+16465588656,,9159704974# US (New York)+16699009128,,9159704974# US (San Jose)Dial by your location        +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)        +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose)        877 853 5247 US Toll-free        888 788 0099 US Toll-freeMeeting ID: 915 970 4974Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ad27hc6t7h   When: Thu 24 Sep 2020 16:00 – 17:00 United Kingdom Time Calendar: tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org Who: * Bill Fletcher- creator * marek.bykowski(a)gmail.com * okash.khawaja(a)gmail.com * tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this courtesy email at the account tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future updates for this event, decline this event. Alternatively, you can sign up for a Google Account at https://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser and be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or to modify your RSVP. Learn more at https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Linaro Connect Sessions of Interest

by Don Harbin

Hi All, As Linaro Connect starts tomorrow, here are some pointers to sessions that will be of interest related to trustedfirmware.org. - *PSA Secure Partitions in OP-TEE* - Tuesday, September 22nd (1:25-1:50pm UTC) - Speaker: Miklos Balint - Slides available here <https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/lvc20/9a/LVC20-112_PSA_Secure_Partiti…> - *Trusted Firmware Project update* - Tuesday, Sept. 22nd (2:00-2:25pm UTC) - Spreaders: Matteo Carlini, Shebu Kuriakose - Slides available here <https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/lvc20/1e/LVC20-113-Trusted-Firmware-p…> - *Scalable Security Using Trusted Firmware-M Profiles* - Wednesday September 23rd (11.45am – 12.10pm UTC) - Speakers: Shebu Kuiakose, David Want - Slides available here <https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/lvc20/d0/ScalableSecurityUsingTrusted…> - *Enable UEFI Secure Boot using OP-TEE as Secure Partition* - Thursday September 24th (3.45-4.10pm UTC) - Speakers: Sahil Malhotra, Ilias Apalodimas - *Secure Partition Manager (SEL2 firmware) for Arm A-class devices* - Thursday September 24th (4.15-4.40pm UTC) - Speaker: Olivier Deprez - Slides are available here <https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/lvc20/09/LVC20-305-secure-partition-m…> Some general pointers to sessions of potential interest: - Security related topics can be viewed here - Boot architecture topics can be viewed here As a reminder, sign up for tomorrow's event is at Linaro Connect Registration <https://connect.linaro.org/> and is free, so feel free to forward this information on. :) The overall schedule is available at the same link as registration in case you may be interested in other sessions. Best regards, Don

5 years, 12 months

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TF-A TechForum 24th Sept Cancelled

by Joanna Farley

Due to conflicts this week I am cancelling this week’s TF-A Techforum on Thursday, 24th September 2020 at 16:00 – 17:00 BST. The next meeting will now be Thursday, 8th October 2020 at 16:00 – 17:00 BST Apologies all. Joanna

5 years, 12 months

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Re: [TF-A] Tests to verify BP_OPTION

by Alexei Fedorov

Hi, Yes, there are fvp-pauth-pac-ret-leaf-sdei,fvp-pauth-standard:fvp-tftf-fip.tftf-aemv8a.8_5-debug fvp-pauth-pac-ret-leaf-tsp-sdei,fvp-pauth-standard:fvp-tftf-fip.tftf-aemv8a.8_5-debug configs in platform-ci/group/tftf-l2-fvp introduced by https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/ci/tf-a-ci-scripts/+/5393 Alexei ________________________________ From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> on behalf of Varun Wadekar via TF-A <tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> Sent: 17 September 2020 19:18 To: Kalyani Chidambaram Vaidyanathan <kalyanic(a)nvidia.com>; tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org <tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> Subject: Re: [TF-A] Tests to verify BP_OPTION <Bump to get this email through> From: Kalyani Chidambaram Vaidyanathan <kalyanic(a)nvidia.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:54 AM To: tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org Cc: Varun Wadekar <vwadekar(a)nvidia.com> Subject: Tests to verify BP_OPTION Hi, Is there any test to verify the BP_OPTION feature set to “pac-ret+leaf” ? When BRANCH_PROTECTION is set to “3”, BP_OPTION is set to “pac-ret+leaf”. Reference code - https://github.com/ARM-software/arm-trusted-firmware/blob/master/Makefile Thanks, Kalyani

5 years, 12 months

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Re: [TF-A] Query TSPD behavior with EHF

by Soby Mathew

Hi Sandeep > Except during yielding SMC ‘disable_intr_rm_local(INTR_TYPE_NS, SECUE);’ is in effect. Intention is to avoid NS interrupt preempt secure execution (Fast SMC). > But I think that will also disable G0 interrupt as both NS interrupt and G0 interrupt are on FIQ. > EHF already ensures this by GIC PMR adjustment. So disabling routing model seems unnecessary in this case. > This is my understanding from the code please confirm if this is correct. The EL3 interrupts (G0 interrupts) should be able to pre-empt Fast SMC. Hence the usage of GIC PMR to mask the NS interrupts. As Dan says, the TSP_NS_INTR_ASYNC_PREEMPT predates the EHF design and it seems there is a problem as you describe. > EHF already ensures this by GIC PMR adjustment. So disabling routing model seems unnecessary in this case. > This is my understanding from the code please confirm if this is correct. You are right. Routing model manipulation is not required when EL3 interrupts are present as GIC PMR manipulation should take care of the required behaviour for yielding vs atomic SMC. You also need to ensure it works as expected when EL3 interrupts are not enabled and when EHF is disabled. Best Regards Soby Mathew > -----Original Message----- > From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Sandeep > Tripathy via TF-A > Sent: 17 September 2020 16:53 > To: Dan Handley <Dan.Handley(a)arm.com> > Cc: tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org > Subject: Re: [TF-A] Query TSPD behavior with EHF > > Hi Dan, > I am not sure if this is mentioned anywhere in any documents but I think > EHF handlers should be able to preempt all execution contexts at lower ELs > and lower ELs should never be able to mask such interrupts. > If the behavioral expectation is set the implementation can be fixed. > > Thanks > Sandeep > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:57 PM Dan Handley via TF-A <tf- > a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> wrote: > > > > A correction... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Dan > > > Handley via TF-A > > > Sent: 17 September 2020 15:14 > > > > > > > > > > I want to handle something similar in OP-TEED along with EHF > > > > > depending on > > > > what is the expected behavior. > > > > > > > > Hmm, I thought OP-TEED was more like the > TSP_NS_INTR_ASYNC_PREEMPT=0 > > > case, where NS interrupts are routed to S-EL1 while processing a > > > yielding SMC in S- EL1? Perhaps that's a better TSPD config for you to > follow? > > > > > Sorry, if EL3_EXCEPTION_HANDLING=1 then obviously NS interrupts are > routed to EL3 first, but the TSPD re-enables NS interrupts before handing > over to the TSP to handle yielding calls, via a call to > ehf_allow_ns_preemption. > > > > Right, that is the case for yielding SMC handling where both NS interrupts > and EL3/G0 interrupts can preempt the S_EL1/S_EL2 context. > But I would expect the same routing model even for 'Fast SMC' unlike what is > happening in TSPD. > > > Dan. > > > > -- > > TF-A mailing list > > TF-A(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org > > https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/mailman/listinfo/tf-a > -- > TF-A mailing list > TF-A(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org > https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/mailman/listinfo/tf-a

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Re: [TF-A] Build failure in OpenCI

by Joanna Farley

FYI we are trying to get the OpenCI to use a different label (Validation-Bot-Review) which is not part our of day to day workflow for patch approvals but standard plugins being used don't seem to support non standard labels so they are working on an alternative approach. Hopefully it will be fixed soon so we don't have to manually remove the OpenCI bot setting on the CR label. Joanna On 18/09/2020, 09:30, "TF-A on behalf of Yann GAUTIER via TF-A" <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org on behalf of tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> wrote: Hi Olivier, Thanks for your answer. I was not particularly worried when I saw what the error was. And I understand it can take time to stabilize such infrastructure. It is nice that we can have access to it now. Regards, Yann -----Original Message----- From: Olivier Deprez <Olivier.Deprez(a)arm.com> Sent: vendredi 18 septembre 2020 10:22 To: tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org; Yann GAUTIER <yann.gautier(a)st.com> Subject: Re: Build failure in OpenCI Hi Yann, The OpenCI is under enablement/works, and I think you can safely ignore those CR-1/Verified-1 from the bot. Current CI strategy is still about maintainers applying Allow-CI+1/2 (resulting in Verified+1 on success). Sorry for the trouble it causes presently. Regards, Olivier. ________________________________________ From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> on behalf of Yann GAUTIER via TF-A <tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> Sent: 18 September 2020 09:33 To: tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org Subject: [TF-A] Build failure in OpenCI Hi, I've pushed some series of patches this morning, but none of them passes the OpenCI builds and tests. For all of them, the error is the same, Lava cannot find a file: http://ci.trustedfirmware.org/job/tf-a-builder//ws/custom_lava_job_definiti…<http://ci.trustedfirmware.org/job/tf-a-builder/ws/custom_lava_job_definitio…> See for example: https://ci.trustedfirmware.org/job/post-build-lava/3941/console Do you know what's wrong with this file? And if it will be corrected soon? Thanks, Yann -- TF-A mailing list TF-A(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/mailman/listinfo/tf-a

6 years

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Re: [TF-A] Build failure in OpenCI

by Olivier Deprez

Hi Yann, The OpenCI is under enablement/works, and I think you can safely ignore those CR-1/Verified-1 from the bot. Current CI strategy is still about maintainers applying Allow-CI+1/2 (resulting in Verified+1 on success). Sorry for the trouble it causes presently. Regards, Olivier. ________________________________________ From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> on behalf of Yann GAUTIER via TF-A <tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> Sent: 18 September 2020 09:33 To: tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org Subject: [TF-A] Build failure in OpenCI Hi, I’ve pushed some series of patches this morning, but none of them passes the OpenCI builds and tests. For all of them, the error is the same, Lava cannot find a file: http://ci.trustedfirmware.org/job/tf-a-builder//ws/custom_lava_job_definiti…<http://ci.trustedfirmware.org/job/tf-a-builder/ws/custom_lava_job_definitio…> See for example: https://ci.trustedfirmware.org/job/post-build-lava/3941/console Do you know what’s wrong with this file? And if it will be corrected soon? Thanks, Yann

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Build failure in OpenCI

by Yann GAUTIER

Hi, I've pushed some series of patches this morning, but none of them passes the OpenCI builds and tests. For all of them, the error is the same, Lava cannot find a file: http://ci.trustedfirmware.org/job/tf-a-builder//ws/custom_lava_job_definiti…<http://ci.trustedfirmware.org/job/tf-a-builder/ws/custom_lava_job_definitio…> See for example: https://ci.trustedfirmware.org/job/post-build-lava/3941/console Do you know what's wrong with this file? And if it will be corrected soon? Thanks, Yann

6 years

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Tests to verify BP_OPTION

by Kalyani Chidambaram Vaidyanathan

Hi, Is there any test to verify the BP_OPTION feature set to "pac-ret+leaf" ? When BRANCH_PROTECTION is set to "3", BP_OPTION is set to "pac-ret+leaf". Reference code - https://github.com/ARM-software/arm-trusted-firmware/blob/master/Makefile Thanks, Kalyani

6 years

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Re: [TF-A] Query TSPD behavior with EHF

by Sandeep Tripathy

Hi Dan, I am not sure if this is mentioned anywhere in any documents but I think EHF handlers should be able to preempt all execution contexts at lower ELs and lower ELs should never be able to mask such interrupts. If the behavioral expectation is set the implementation can be fixed. Thanks Sandeep On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:57 PM Dan Handley via TF-A <tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> wrote: > > A correction... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Dan Handley > > via TF-A > > Sent: 17 September 2020 15:14 > > > > > > > > I want to handle something similar in OP-TEED along with EHF > > > > depending on > > > what is the expected behavior. > > > > > > Hmm, I thought OP-TEED was more like the TSP_NS_INTR_ASYNC_PREEMPT=0 case, > > where NS interrupts are routed to S-EL1 while processing a yielding SMC in S- > > EL1? Perhaps that's a better TSPD config for you to follow? > > > Sorry, if EL3_EXCEPTION_HANDLING=1 then obviously NS interrupts are routed to EL3 first, but the TSPD re-enables NS interrupts before handing over to the TSP to handle yielding calls, via a call to ehf_allow_ns_preemption. > Right, that is the case for yielding SMC handling where both NS interrupts and EL3/G0 interrupts can preempt the S_EL1/S_EL2 context. But I would expect the same routing model even for 'Fast SMC' unlike what is happening in TSPD. > Dan. > > -- > TF-A mailing list > TF-A(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org > https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/mailman/listinfo/tf-a

6 years

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Re: [TF-A] Query TSPD behavior with EHF

by Dan Handley

A correction... > -----Original Message----- > From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Dan Handley > via TF-A > Sent: 17 September 2020 15:14 > > > > > > I want to handle something similar in OP-TEED along with EHF > > > depending on > > what is the expected behavior. > > > > Hmm, I thought OP-TEED was more like the TSP_NS_INTR_ASYNC_PREEMPT=0 case, > where NS interrupts are routed to S-EL1 while processing a yielding SMC in S- > EL1? Perhaps that's a better TSPD config for you to follow? > Sorry, if EL3_EXCEPTION_HANDLING=1 then obviously NS interrupts are routed to EL3 first, but the TSPD re-enables NS interrupts before handing over to the TSP to handle yielding calls, via a call to ehf_allow_ns_preemption. Dan.

6 years

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Re: [TF-A] Query TSPD behavior with EHF

by Dan Handley

Hi Sandeep > -----Original Message----- > From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Sandeep > Tripathy via TF-A > > > > EHF activates the routing model for ‘INTR_TYPE_EL3’ CSS = 0 , TEL3 = 1 > ie FIQ trapped to EL3 and not visible and not mask-able to lower ELs. > > > > Which means G0 interrupts (all EHF interrupts) expected to preempt any > > execution context. And secure state cannot mask such interrupts > > > > eg: critical error interrupts. Sort of NMI behavior. > > > > However from TSPD code I see ‘TSP_NS_INTR_ASYNC_PREEMPT’ enforces a > slightly different behavior. G0 interrupt cannot preempt a fast smc handler > in SPD. > > > > Except during yielding SMC ‘disable_intr_rm_local(INTR_TYPE_NS, SECURE);’ > is in effect. Intention is to avoid NS interrupt preempt secure execution > (Fast SMC). > > But I think that will also disable G0 interrupt as both NS interrupt and G0 > interrupt are on FIQ. I haven't double checked but that sounds correct. > > EHF already ensures this by GIC PMR adjustment. So disabling routing model > seems unnecessary in this case. > > This is my understanding from the code please confirm if this is correct. > > The TSPD's TSP_NS_INTR_ASYNC_PREEMPT functionality predates the EHF, which probably explains why NS interrupts are disabled in 2 ways in this config (i.e. when both TSP_NS_INTR_ASYNC_PREEMPT and EL3_EXCEPTION_HANDLING equal 1). I guess it's possible that the call to disable the routing model can be safely removed in this config but it would require some thorough code review and testing. I'm not sure if this config is tested much at all. > > > > > > Do we think it is not aligned with G0 interrupt preemption rule. Or do we > treat Fast SMC at S_EL1/EL2 as non interruptible. > > I think G0 interrupts should be handled in this case but I'm not sure if this is easy to fix in the TSPD. > > > > > > I want to handle something similar in OP-TEED along with EHF depending on > what is the expected behavior. > > Hmm, I thought OP-TEED was more like the TSP_NS_INTR_ASYNC_PREEMPT=0 case, where NS interrupts are routed to S-EL1 while processing a yielding SMC in S-EL1? Perhaps that's a better TSPD config for you to follow? Regards Dan.

6 years

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Re: [TF-A] Query TSPD behavior with EHF

by Sandeep Tripathy

Updated.. On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:51 AM Sandeep Tripathy via TF-A <tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > EHF activates the routing model for ‘INTR_TYPE_EL3’ CSS = 0 , TEL3 = 1 ie FIQ trapped to EL3 and not visible and not mask-able to lower ELs. > > Which means G0 interrupts (all EHF interrupts) expected to preempt any execution context. And secure state cannot mask such interrupts > > eg: critical error interrupts. Sort of NMI behavior. > > > > However from TSPD code I see ‘TSP_NS_INTR_ASYNC_PREEMPT’ enforces a slightly different behavior. G0 interrupt cannot preempt a fast smc handler in SPD. > > Except during yielding SMC ‘disable_intr_rm_local(INTR_TYPE_NS, SECURE);’ is in effect. Intention is to avoid NS interrupt preempt secure execution (Fast SMC). > But I think that will also disable G0 interrupt as both NS interrupt and G0 interrupt are on FIQ. > EHF already ensures this by GIC PMR adjustment. So disabling routing model seems unnecessary in this case. > This is my understanding from the code please confirm if this is correct. > > > > Do we think it is not aligned with G0 interrupt preemption rule. Or do we treat Fast SMC at S_EL1/EL2 as non interruptible. > > > > I want to handle something similar in OP-TEED along with EHF depending on what is the expected behavior. > > > > Thanks > > Sandeep > > > > -- > TF-A mailing list > TF-A(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org > https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/mailman/listinfo/tf-a

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Query TSPD behavior with EHF

by Sandeep Tripathy

Hi, EHF activates the routing model for ‘INTR_TYPE_EL3’ CSS = 0 , TEL3 = 1 ie FIQ trapped to EL3 and not visible and not mask-able to lower ELs. Which means G0 interrupts (all EHF interrupts) expected to preempt any execution context. And secure state cannot mask such interrupts eg: critical error interrupts. Sort of NMI behavior. However from TSPD code I see ‘TSP_NS_INTR_ASYNC_PREEMPT’ enforces a slightly different behavior. G0 interrupt cannot preempt a fast smc handler in SPD. Except during yielding SMC ‘disable_intr_rm_local(INTR_TYPE_NS, SECURE);’ is in effect. Intention is to avoid NS interrupt preempt secure execution (Fast SMC). But I think that will also disable G0 interrupt as both NS interrupt and G0 interrupt are on FIQ. This is my understanding from the code please confirm if this is correct. Do we think it is not aligned with G0 interrupt preemption rule. Or do we treat Fast SMC at S_EL1/EL2 as non interruptible. I want to handle something similar in OP-TEED along with EHF depending on what is the expected behavior. Thanks Sandeep

6 years

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ATF currently does not use proper printf format specifiers for fixed width types

by Scott Branden

Hello, ATF currently uses non-portable printf format specifiers for fixed width types defined in stdint.h In addition, ATF redefines types defined in gcc for stdint.h with its own custom types causing additional issues. This causes compilation issues when porting code to/from ATF. AND, generates coverity parse errors as int64_t and uint64_t are incorrectly defined in ATF vs. gcc for aarch64. The printf format specifiers in inttypes.h are to be used for the proper format specifiers. And, uint64_t/int64_t should be defined the same as in gcc. I tried fixing up all the instances of int64 printf format specifiers by introducing inttypes.h and redefined the stdint types correctly here: https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-A/trusted-firmware-a/+/5437 We have checked the change into our local tree so that everything compiles and runs in our system. Please accept change upstream. Regards, Scott

6 years

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Re: [TF-A] ATF LTS version

by François Ozog

On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 23:42, Varun Wadekar via TF-A < tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> wrote: > Hello Matteo, > > Apologies for still using an outdated term. I have trained myself to get > used to "TF-A" - looks like I am still not there. > > >> The idea has also been just raised to the Trusted Firmware project > Board for initial consideration and we will be all very keen to understand > how much interest there is from the wider TF-A community of adopters and > external (non-Arm) maintainers > > That is good to hear. For the exact scope, I think we can assume the usual > expectations from any LTS software stack - stability, performance, > security, bug fixes along with maintenance support. We are open to > discussing the cadence and any other operational commitments. > > @Francois, from the description of Trusted Substrate looks like you also > expect the sub-projects to provide LTS versions for the project as a whole > to succeed (?) > > Yes. I assume relevant tf.org projects decide to branch LTSes so that we can extend the scope to selected OP-TEE TAs for the Trusted Substrate LTS and may be extend duration of support for the tf.org LTSes. (just to make sure: this is just early open thinking to understand what it would mean to build such a service on the Linaro side should there be tf.org LTSes). -Varun > > > -----Original Message----- > From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Matteo > Carlini via TF-A > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 4:25 AM > To: tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org > Subject: Re: [TF-A] ATF LTS version > > External email: Use caution opening links or attachments > > > Hi Francois, > > > I'd be happy to know more about what you see as TFA LTS: exact scope, > number of versions, duration, operational commitments (zero-day...). > > Do you have other firmware LTS needs? > > Agree. That’s precisely what I was hinting to Varun, when mentioning > concrete requirements for the LTS scheme. > > > Trusted Substrate is the aggregation of { TFA, OP-TEE, some TEE apps > such as firmwareTPM, U-Boot }. > > Trusted Substrate effort is led by Linaro members and is going to be set > up as a more open project. > > First time I heard about it. Good to know, but I guess we'll need to > discuss the intersection and collaboration with the Trusted Firmware > project at some point. > Having a LTS versioning scheme for the Trusted Firmware hosted projects > should be theoretically either in the scope of the Project itself or, if > the Board agrees, appointed to some other project/entity. > > > Our end goal is to enable unified, transactional, robust (anti-bricking, > anti rollback) UEFI OTA on both U-Boot and EDK2. > > Fair, but IMHO this has little to do with Arm Secure world software LTS > releases (TF-A/Hafnium/OP-TEE/TAs, TF-M)...probably best to discuss aside, > this is not in scope of what Varun is raising. > > Thanks > Matteo > > -- > TF-A mailing list > TF-A(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org > https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/mailman/listinfo/tf-a > -- > TF-A mailing list > TF-A(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org > https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/mailman/listinfo/tf-a > -- François-Frédéric Ozog | *Director Linaro Edge & Fog Computing Group* T: +33.67221.6485 francois.ozog(a)linaro.org | Skype: ffozog

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Test message please ignore

by Bill Fletcher

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TF-A Tech Forum Agenda @ Thr 10th September 2020 16:00-1700 BST

by Joanna Farley

Hi All, The next TF-A Tech Forum is scheduled for Thu 10th September 2020 16:00 – 17:00 (BST). A reoccurring meeting invite has been sent out to the subscribers of this TF-A mailing list. If you don’t have this please let me know. Agenda: * Proposal for a LTS (Long Term Support) Release Option for TF-A * Presented by Varun Wadekar * Long-term support is a lifecycle management policy in which a stable release is maintained for a period of time * Optional TF-A Mailing List Topic Discussions If TF-A contributors have anything they wish to present at any future TF-A tech forum please contact me to have that scheduled. Previous sessions, both recording and presentation material can be found on the trustedfirmware.org TF-A Technical meeting webpage: https://www.trustedfirmware.org/meetings/tf-a-technical-forum/ A scheduling tracking page is also available to help track sessions suggested and being prepared: https://developer.trustedfirmware.org/w/tf_a/tf-a-tech-forum-scheduling/ Final decisions on what will be presented will be shared a few days before the next meeting and shared on the TF-A mailing list. Thanks Joanna

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Re: [TF-A] GCC compiler option to support "xpaci" instruction

by Olivier Deprez

Hi again, After further check, it looks gcc 9.2 already supports the appropriate option. Maybe you missed ARM_ARCH_MINOR on the build command line depending on whether you need PAuth (Armv8.3) and/or BTI (Armv8.5). BRANCH_PROTECTION=2 or 3 => need ARM_ARCH_MINOR=3 (at least) BRANCH_PROTECTION=1 or 4 => need ARM_ARCH_MINOR=5 Regards, Olivier. ________________________________________ From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> on behalf of Olivier Deprez via TF-A <tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> Sent: 03 September 2020 09:47 To: Kalyani Chidambaram Vaidyanathan; tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org; Varun Wadekar Subject: Re: [TF-A] GCC compiler option to support "xpaci" instruction Hi Kalyani, According to https://trustedfirmware-a.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started/build-op… you need a compiler supporting the -mbranch-protection option. This seems to be the case from gcc 9.3 onwards: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.3.0/gcc/AArch64-Options.html#AArch64-O… Notice a GCC10.2 cross-compiler release is planned by end of this year according to this page: https://community.arm.com/developer/tools-software/tools/b/tools-software-i… Regards, Olivier. ________________________________________ From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> on behalf of Varun Wadekar via TF-A <tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> Sent: 03 September 2020 04:08 To: Kalyani Chidambaram Vaidyanathan; tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org Subject: Re: [TF-A] GCC compiler option to support "xpaci" instruction <Dummy response to get the email through to the mailing list> From: Kalyani Chidambaram Vaidyanathan <kalyanic(a)nvidia.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 3:43 PM To: tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org Cc: Varun Wadekar <vwadekar(a)nvidia.com> Subject: GCC compiler option to support "xpaci" instruction Hi, We are using gcc-arm-9.2 toolchain and see that this is not supporting the “xpaci” instruction. Is there any compiler flag that has to be included to support this? Reference code that uses “xpaci” when PAUTH is enabled - https://github.com/ARM-software/arm-trusted-firmware/blob/master/bl31/aarch… Thanks, Kalyani -- TF-A mailing list TF-A(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/mailman/listinfo/tf-a

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Re: [TF-A] GCC compiler option to support "xpaci" instruction

by Olivier Deprez

Hi Kalyani, According to https://trustedfirmware-a.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started/build-op… you need a compiler supporting the -mbranch-protection option. This seems to be the case from gcc 9.3 onwards: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.3.0/gcc/AArch64-Options.html#AArch64-O… Notice a GCC10.2 cross-compiler release is planned by end of this year according to this page: https://community.arm.com/developer/tools-software/tools/b/tools-software-i… Regards, Olivier. ________________________________________ From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> on behalf of Varun Wadekar via TF-A <tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> Sent: 03 September 2020 04:08 To: Kalyani Chidambaram Vaidyanathan; tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org Subject: Re: [TF-A] GCC compiler option to support "xpaci" instruction <Dummy response to get the email through to the mailing list> From: Kalyani Chidambaram Vaidyanathan <kalyanic(a)nvidia.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 3:43 PM To: tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org Cc: Varun Wadekar <vwadekar(a)nvidia.com> Subject: GCC compiler option to support "xpaci" instruction Hi, We are using gcc-arm-9.2 toolchain and see that this is not supporting the “xpaci” instruction. Is there any compiler flag that has to be included to support this? Reference code that uses “xpaci” when PAUTH is enabled - https://github.com/ARM-software/arm-trusted-firmware/blob/master/bl31/aarch… Thanks, Kalyani

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Re: [TF-A] GCC compiler option to support "xpaci" instruction

by Varun Wadekar

<Dummy response to get the email through to the mailing list> From: Kalyani Chidambaram Vaidyanathan <kalyanic(a)nvidia.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 3:43 PM To: tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org Cc: Varun Wadekar <vwadekar(a)nvidia.com> Subject: GCC compiler option to support "xpaci" instruction Hi, We are using gcc-arm-9.2 toolchain and see that this is not supporting the "xpaci" instruction. Is there any compiler flag that has to be included to support this? Reference code that uses "xpaci" when PAUTH is enabled - https://github.com/ARM-software/arm-trusted-firmware/blob/master/bl31/aarch… Thanks, Kalyani

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List of issues with Cactus as SPMC on pre-8.4 CPUs

by Varun Wadekar

Hi @Olivier<mailto:Olivier.Deprez@arm.com>, We have been trying to use Cactus as SPMC on Tegra194 (pre 8.4) platforms and have faced the following issues. 1. Cactus_main.c - During cold boot, Cactus checks if the ffa-id for the instance of Cactus == SPM_VM_ID_FIRST. It issues FFA_ID_GET SMC to TF-A which returns the spmc_id in return. But on pre-8.4 platforms the value does not match SPM_VM_ID_FIRST and so the system assumes that the device is running on a post-8.4 CPU. The problem is that TF-A returns the spmc_id for this SMC, which seems incorrect. I don't understand why Cactus needs to know its own VM_ID on pre-8.4 CPUs. Can we assume that only one SPMC can run on pre-8.4? 2. Cactus_ffa_tests.c - The ` ffa_partition_info_get_test` incorrectly queries the partition info for secondary and tertiary VMs on pre-8.4 CPUs. 3. In general the boot tests that execute within Cactus seem incorrect to me. Some tests expect the presence of a non-secure world payload, which is not available at this point in the boot. This leads to numerous crashes and asserts during boot. 4. Cactus incorrectly uses a hard-coded address 0x7300000 as the RX/TX memory base. It should be using a platform defined value instead. We do not support this memory address on Tegra194. 5. The debug UART in Cactus needs rework too. Right now, it only supports PL011 as the UART driver. 6. TF-A SPMD forwards some SMCs to the non-secure world without checking if a non-secure world payload exists. This causes crashes during cold boot. Please let me know if you have commits for any or all of these issues. We have some WIP commits that we can push to gerrit for review, if required. Thoughts? -Varun

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question about tf-a spec

by chen feng

Hello arm expects, While reading the tf-a spec about the section "3.5.1 Register state". It described that "The MMU must be disabled for a partition that does not run in S-EL0". Does this mean that the S-EL1 SP need to create their own page table and enable the MMU itself. I wonder in this way, it is not very friendly to a SP developer. Since the SP can be a verify simple binary, maybe a single driver which can benefited from the isolation from other partitions. So in the pointer of developing a single driver. I think it do not need to care about the MMU configuration. It will be more friendly to be as easy as developing a user-land binary. The SPMC(SEL2) can do this configure for the SEL1's page-tables and enable MMU for SEL1 before jump into the SP. So I want to discuss here to understand the meaning behind it. Cheers, Feng

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Re: [TF-A] [query] sbsa level 3 spec: non secure watchdog WS1 handling at EL3

by Sandeep Tripathy

Hi Dan, On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 8:31 PM Dan Handley via TF-A <tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> wrote: > > Hi Sandeep > > > > Arm development platforms that have an SBSA secure watchdog like N1SDP do not register an interrupt handler for the WS0 signal. They simply wait for the WS1 signal, which is fed to a higher agent (in this case the System Control Processor), which resets the platform. > There is no explicit watchdog interrupt handling functionality in TF-A. > what happens to non secure sbsa WS1 ? That is the case for Secure sbsa WS1. NS WS0 ----> EL1 X (optional) but linux already implements it . NS WS1 ----> EL3 X TF-A Do not handle it. Hence the patch. Not handling it altogether is not an option I guess. S WS0 -------> EL3 X (optional) . Platform might want to log this condition. S WS1 ----------------------------------------> handled by a higher agent. > > > If your platform does not have a higher agent that handles WS1 then I guess you could add a handler in TF-A as you suggest in your code snippet, though I'm not sure if the maintainers would want this in generic SBSA code. Also, I don't see why you need both callback(s) and the explicit call to psci_systrem_reset2(), when presumably the callback(s) would do the latter. > Platform callback can optionally do more things like some logging. Ultimately 'system_reset2' seems to be the thing everyone would like to do as part of action. Then to reduce duplicate code we can have at one place. > > > > Q1- What happens if core is stuck and interrupts are not taken. > > It's rare for EL3 interrupts not to be taken when the core is stuck, unless an EL3 exception handler itself is stuck, in which case I'm not sure there's much you can do. That's why it's good to have a higher agent. > The rare lockup of core where it's not able to respond (not the software ones) requires some other agent to detect and reset/recover the system. Linux watchdog (ns sbsa WS1) will go unnoticed in such cases. ie. even if the watchdog hardware detected the lockup and indicated by WS0 then WS1 .. both were not acted upon. If it were the secure watchdog then no issues. > > > > Or it has to be registered as a RAS priority exception. > > I don't think that would help, unless the system was flooded with higher priority exceptions that prevented the watchdog handler from running. > > > > Regards > > > Dan. > > > > From: TF-A <tf-a-bounces(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org> On Behalf Of Sandeep Tripathy via TF-A > Sent: 27 August 2020 12:14 > To: tf-a(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org > Subject: [TF-A] [query] sbsa level 3 spec: non secure watchdog WS1 handling at EL3 > > > > Hi, > > Based on sbsa spec for level-3 firmware specification watchdog signals NS WS1 and S WS0 to be handled at EL3 firmware. > > I have some query on how TF-A plans to implement this. > > > > Ref: Excerpt DEN0029D_SBSA_6.0 https://developer.arm.com/documentation/den0029/d/?lang=en > > 3.2.3 Watchdogs The required behavior of watchdog signal 1 of the Non-secure watchdog is modified in level 3– firmware and is required to be routed as an SPI to the GIC. It is expected that this SPI be configured as an EL3 interrupt, directly targeting a single PE. A system compatible with level 3- firmware must implement a second watchdog, and is referred to as the Secure watchdog. It must have both its register frames mapped in the Secure memory address space and must not be aliased to the Non-secure address space. Watchdog Signal 0 of the Secure watchdog must be routed as an SPI to the GIC and it is expected this will be configured as an EL3 interrupt, directly targeting a single PE. > > > > Q1- What happens if core is stuck and interrupts are not taken. Non-secure watchdog will expire and ultimately results in a WS1 which is also not taken as the core is not responding. > > If WS1 were to another subsystem (eg: SCP) then it would take action. > > In current scheme is it the secure sbsa wdg expected to detect such hang ? > > > > Q2- How to handle sbsa watchdog interrupt at EL3. Please suggest if I should make a patch in following approach to start with. Or it has to be registered as a RAS priority exception. > > > > diff --git a/drivers/arm/sbsa/sbsa.c b/drivers/arm/sbsa/sbsa.c > > index 79c6f26..9683ef8 100644 > > --- a/drivers/arm/sbsa/sbsa.c > > +++ b/drivers/arm/sbsa/sbsa.c > > @@ -40,3 +40,26 @@ > > + > > +#define weak plat_sbsa_nt_wdog_ws1_handle > > +#define weak plat_sbsa_t_wdog_ws0_handle > > +void sbsa_wdog_handler(int id) > > +{ > > + if (id == SBSA_NT_WDG_WS1_INT) { > > + /* PUBLISH_EVENT */ > > + plat_sbsa_nt_wdog_ws1_handle(); > > + } else if (id == SBSA_T_WDG_WS0_INT) { > > + /* PUBLISH_EVENT */ > > + plat_sbsa_t_wdog_ws0_handle(); > > + } > > + /* EOI and reset , log what else */ > > + psci_systrem_reset2(); > > +} > > + > > +void sbsa_wdog_hander_init(void) > > +{ > > +#if EXCEPTION_HANDLING_FRAMEWORK > > + ehf_register_priority_handler(SBSA_WDG_PRI, sbsa_wdog_handler); > > +#endif > > +} > > > > Thanks > > Sandeep > > -- > TF-A mailing list > TF-A(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org > https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/mailman/listinfo/tf-a Thanks Sandeep

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