Hi Peng,
1-Asynchronous preemption of SP: The long route is to make changes in the dispatcher and the corresponding SPD implementation to have synchronous preemption. ie: OP-TEE dispatcher will implement a G1NS (fiq) handler and invoke an entry of OP-TEE synchronously. OP-TEE will save the thread context and return. I did some POC but the complexity and effort to generalise was not justified by our requirement at that point especially envisioning the movement to SPMD in future.
2-Synchronous preemption of SP: ref: https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-A/trusted-firmware-a/+/6345
I used this approach instead to unblock OP-TEE work alongside EHF. This serves the purpose without changing the routing model with a limitation that non yielding/fast SMC can not be preempted. And ofcourse OP-TEE can mask G0 interrupt in anycase. But I think this is sufficient for your purpose.
Please feedback if the above patch works for you.
Thanks Sandeep
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 2:43 PM Peng Fan via TF-A tf-a@lists.trustedfirmware.org wrote:
Hi Achin,
We are using SDEI for Jailhouse hypervisor to minimize interrupt latency, however we also wanna use OP-TEE when SDEI enabled.
So I wanna how to make both work together.
Thanks,
Peng.
From: Achin Gupta [mailto:Achin.Gupta@arm.com] Sent: 2021年3月17日 17:59 To: Peng Fan peng.fan@nxp.com; Jens Wiklander jens.wiklander@linaro.org Cc: op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org; tf-a@lists.trustedfirmware.org Subject: Re: EHF + OPTEE on ARM64
Hi Peng,
+TF-A folk.
My 0.02$.
What is the problem you are trying to solve? Why do you need to run OP-TEE and EHF together? EHF was originally written to support a S-EL0 SP that is managed directly by TF-A in EL3 (TF-A folk can chime in).
The SP could perform RAS error handling for which it needs the EHF. The EHF triages asynchronous exceptions and hands RAS errors to the SP for further handling.
This is just one use case but there is no Trusted OS in these configurations.
So, it would help to understand the requirement.
cheers,
Achin
From: OP-TEE op-tee-bounces@lists.trustedfirmware.org on behalf of Jens Wiklander via OP-TEE op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org Sent: 17 March 2021 09:23 To: Peng Fan peng.fan@nxp.com Cc: op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org Subject: Re: EHF + OPTEE on ARM64
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 9:43 AM Peng Fan peng.fan@nxp.com wrote:
Subject: Re: EHF + OPTEE on ARM64
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 9:02 AM Peng Fan peng.fan@nxp.com wrote:
Subject: Re: EHF + OPTEE on ARM64
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 8:41 AM Peng Fan peng.fan@nxp.com wrote:
> Subject: Re: EHF + OPTEE on ARM64 > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 11:08 AM Peng Fan peng.fan@nxp.com
wrote:
> > > > Hi, > > > > In bl31/ehf.c, there are following two lines, per my > > understanding, when cpu is in secure world, the non-secure > > interrupt as FIQ(GICv3) will be directly catched by EL3, not S-EL1 > > /* Route EL3 interrupts when in Secure and Non-secure.
*/
> > set_interrupt_rm_flag(flags, NON_SECURE); > > set_interrupt_rm_flag(flags, SECURE); > > > > So this will conflict with OP-TEE, because OP-TEE needs catch > > NS-interrupt as FIQ in S-EL1 world. > > In the case of GICv3, OP-TEE is configured to receive the > non-secure interrupts as FIQ and secure interrupts as IRQ. See
CFG_ARM_GICV3.
But EHF needs NS-interrupt FIQ be catched by EL3 if I understand correct, per " set_interrupt_rm_flag(flags, SECURE);"
So currently EHF could not work together with OP-TEE, right?
To be honest, I'm not completely sure what EHF does. From OP-TEE point of view we expect to receive the non-secure interrupts as a way of doing a controlled exit. This allows OP-TEE to resume execution with a different core on re-entry. If EL3 takes the non-secure interrupts directly it will have to make sure to only re-enter
OP-TEE on this core as a return from exception.
Is this easy to be achieved?
I don't know, it depends on what you intend to do with this non-secure interrupt. If it's handled at EL3 and then there's a return from exception back to S-EL1 there's likely no harm done. But if there's a world switch involved there might be trouble, OP-TEE might not be in a suitable state for a world switch.
Or by using opteed_sel1_interrupt_handler, could we have similar behavior to allow the other core resume execution?
Only OP-TEE itself can make a controlled exit as there's an internal state to maintain. Currently that's signalled with a non-secure interrupt.
Per EHF, https://trustedfirmware-a.readthedocs.io/en/latest/components/exception-hand... On GICv3 systems, when executing in S-EL1, pending Non-secure interrupts of sufficient priority are signalled as FIQs, and therefore will be routed to EL3. As a result, S-EL1 software cannot expect to handle Non-secure interrupts at S-EL1. Essentially, this deprecates the routing mode described as CSS=0, TEL3=0.
In order for S-EL1 software to handle Non-secure interrupts while having EHF enabled, the dispatcher must adopt a model where Non-secure interrupts are received at EL3, but are then synchronously handled over to S-EL1.
The issue to me here how to synchronously handled over to S-EL1 and not break optee.
I understand. OP-TEE is masking interrupts in some critical sections, while in such a state OP-TEE cannot handle any asynchronous interrupt. Temporarily masking interrupts is normally a quick operation so we do it in quite a few places. So the crux of the problem is to make sure that OP-TEE is in a state where it can make a controlled exit. I don't have any good ideas for this right now.
Cheers, Jens
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Hi Sandeep
Subject: Re: [TF-A] EHF + OPTEE on ARM64
Hi Peng,
1-Asynchronous preemption of SP: The long route is to make changes in the dispatcher and the corresponding SPD implementation to have synchronous preemption. ie: OP-TEE dispatcher will implement a G1NS (fiq) handler and invoke an entry of OP-TEE synchronously. OP-TEE will save the thread context and return. I did some POC but the complexity and effort to generalise was not justified by our requirement at that point especially envisioning the movement to SPMD in future.
2-Synchronous preemption of SP: ref: https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-A/trusted-firmware-a/+/6345
I used this approach instead to unblock OP-TEE work alongside EHF. This serves the purpose without changing the routing model with a limitation that non yielding/fast SMC can not be preempted. And ofcourse OP-TEE can mask G0 interrupt in anycase. But I think this is sufficient for your purpose.
Please feedback if the above patch works for you.
I was trying using #ifndef SPD_opteed to wrap the secure stuff. Thanks for your patch. I test on i.MX8MM-EVK, it works well.
Thanks, Peng.
Thanks Sandeep
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 2:43 PM Peng Fan via TF-A tf-a@lists.trustedfirmware.org wrote:
Hi Achin,
We are using SDEI for Jailhouse hypervisor to minimize interrupt latency,
however we also wanna use OP-TEE when SDEI enabled.
So I wanna how to make both work together.
Thanks,
Peng.
From: Achin Gupta [mailto:Achin.Gupta@arm.com] Sent: 2021年3月17日 17:59 To: Peng Fan peng.fan@nxp.com; Jens Wiklander
Cc: op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org; tf-a@lists.trustedfirmware.org Subject: Re: EHF + OPTEE on ARM64
Hi Peng,
+TF-A folk.
My 0.02$.
What is the problem you are trying to solve? Why do you need to run
OP-TEE and EHF together? EHF was originally written to support a S-EL0 SP that is managed directly by TF-A in EL3 (TF-A folk can chime in).
The SP could perform RAS error handling for which it needs the EHF. The EHF
triages asynchronous exceptions and hands RAS errors to the SP for further handling.
This is just one use case but there is no Trusted OS in these configurations.
So, it would help to understand the requirement.
cheers,
Achin
From: OP-TEE op-tee-bounces@lists.trustedfirmware.org on behalf of
Jens Wiklander via OP-TEE op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org
Sent: 17 March 2021 09:23 To: Peng Fan peng.fan@nxp.com Cc: op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org Subject: Re: EHF + OPTEE on ARM64
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 9:43 AM Peng Fan peng.fan@nxp.com wrote:
Subject: Re: EHF + OPTEE on ARM64
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 9:02 AM Peng Fan peng.fan@nxp.com
wrote:
Subject: Re: EHF + OPTEE on ARM64
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 8:41 AM Peng Fan peng.fan@nxp.com
wrote:
> > > Subject: Re: EHF + OPTEE on ARM64 > > > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 11:08 AM Peng Fan
wrote:
> > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > In bl31/ehf.c, there are following two lines, per my > > > understanding, when cpu is in secure world, the non-secure > > > interrupt as FIQ(GICv3) will be directly catched by EL3, not
S-EL1
> > > /* Route EL3 interrupts when in Secure and
Non-secure.
*/
> > > set_interrupt_rm_flag(flags, NON_SECURE); > > > set_interrupt_rm_flag(flags, SECURE); > > > > > > So this will conflict with OP-TEE, because OP-TEE needs catch > > > NS-interrupt as FIQ in S-EL1 world. > > > > In the case of GICv3, OP-TEE is configured to receive the > > non-secure interrupts as FIQ and secure interrupts as IRQ. See
CFG_ARM_GICV3.
> > But EHF needs NS-interrupt FIQ be catched by EL3 if I understand > correct, per " set_interrupt_rm_flag(flags, SECURE);" > > So currently EHF could not work together with OP-TEE, right?
To be honest, I'm not completely sure what EHF does. From OP-TEE point of view we expect to receive the non-secure interrupts as a way of doing a controlled exit. This allows OP-TEE to resume execution with a different core on re-entry. If EL3 takes the non-secure interrupts directly it will have to make sure to only
re-enter
OP-TEE on this core as a return from exception.
Is this easy to be achieved?
I don't know, it depends on what you intend to do with this non-secure interrupt. If it's handled at EL3 and then there's a return from exception
back
to S-EL1 there's likely no harm done. But if there's a world switch
involved
there might be trouble, OP-TEE might not be in a suitable state for a
world
switch.
Or by using opteed_sel1_interrupt_handler, could we have similar behavior to allow the other core resume execution?
Only OP-TEE itself can make a controlled exit as there's an internal state
to
maintain. Currently that's signalled with a non-secure interrupt.
Per EHF,
https://trustedfirmware-a.readthedocs.io/en/latest/components/exception-h andling.html?highlight=Exception%20Handling%20Framework
On GICv3 systems, when executing in S-EL1, pending Non-secure
interrupts of
sufficient priority are signalled as FIQs, and therefore will be routed to
EL3.
As a result, S-EL1 software cannot expect to handle Non-secure interrupts
at S-EL1.
Essentially, this deprecates the routing mode described as CSS=0, TEL3=0.
In order for S-EL1 software to handle Non-secure interrupts while having
EHF enabled,
the dispatcher must adopt a model where Non-secure interrupts are
received at EL3,
but are then synchronously handled over to S-EL1.
The issue to me here how to synchronously handled over to S-EL1 and not
break optee.
I understand. OP-TEE is masking interrupts in some critical sections, while in such a state OP-TEE cannot handle any asynchronous interrupt. Temporarily masking interrupts is normally a quick operation so we do it in quite a few places. So the crux of the problem is to make sure that OP-TEE is in a state where it can make a controlled exit. I don't have any good ideas for this right now.
Cheers, Jens
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