Hi,
Please find the minutes to the Feb 17 TSC below.
Best regards,
Don - Sent on behalf of TSC chairs.
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Meeting started 17.05 UK time on 02-17-2022
*Attendance:*
Antonio de Angelis
Anton Komlev
Andrej Butok
David Brown
Julius Werner
Kevin Townsend
1. Brief introduction from Antonio on the survey prepared by the
tf.org community
manager to be circulated with TSC and Board members after the upcoming
Board meeting. General overview of the type of questions in the survey,
possibility to request a 1:1 with TSC leadership in one of the survey
questions, if don’t want to share feedback on the survey itself. Results
will be collected and shared during March’s TSC.
1. Next topic: Anton’s presentation on TF-M roadmap.
- Release cadence updated to two releases per year, April and November.
Next one in April will be TF-M 1.6 (still in discussion when to move to 2.0
numbering, might be November or earlier depending on features that end up
in the release)
- Main focus for the project is on optimisations
- Kevin: code size/RAM requirements don’t look that bad, especially
given the amount of features you get
- Anton: agree, but trying to achieve some smaller footprints like 8
KB of RAM for FF-M
- Mbed TLS 3.1.0 already integrated and will be available in next
released version of TF-M
- Allows to pass full set of compliance tests for PSA (Architecture
Compliance Kit, ACK)
- David: need to further investigate integration with Zephyr OS at
this stage given the new version of mbed TLS 3.1.0 integrated in TF-M
- Efforts to improve documentation
- Kevin: There is a lot of good documentation in the design docs
folder, but unfortunately it gets outdated and does not reflect latest
status of development. Idea proposed to add an expiry date and
an owner to
each document. When the document expires the owner needs to review and
update it accordingly to latest development. It’s extra effort
on owner but
helps keeping documentation updated. Might be an expiry date of once per
year. TF-M to consider the idea.
- ADAC tooling support for host side tools
- PSA FWU
- Kevin: wondering how big is the update expected here . TF-M: We
expect consolidation phase: check with the users and work on
their feedback.
- Any questions:
- Andrej: are there examples of companies already using TF-M in
production? TF-M: Some startups already using TF-M in their
designs but not
sure if already production stage
- Kevin: Confidential AI use case from Linaro is an example of how
TF-M can be used to secure model parameters for inferencing on the edge
node. Confidential AI whitepaper for additional details. Security and
protection of the models, encryption of raw sensor data on S world,
transition to NS world in encrypted form only to establish a TLS
connection
to a cloud server. Decryption happens in the server
- TF-M: Another use case is an algorithm to be protected hence
allowed to run only on the Secure world
- Andrej: moving from Gerrit to GitHub would improve wide spreading
the adoption process of TF-M as a lot of companion projects (e.g. Zephyr,
mbed TLS) in this space are already hosted in GitHub and developers are
used to GitHub flow while Gerrit flow is more complicated. TF-M:
agree move
to GitHub is good for popularity. Discussions ongoing in TSC already for
several months, final decision is with maintainers for Gerrit to GitHub
move.
DavidB: TF-M on GitHub might improve contribution rate from
additional developers more used to GitHub, Gerrit is more complicated /
less common: might result in popularity increase
1. Any other topics for today TSC:
- Attendance: no questions or additional topics raised
- Antonio: need to identify which is next project for March’s meeting
roadmap update. Will discuss and communicate on the mailing list
accordingly in advance.
Meeting close 17:45 UK time.
Hi all,
Can you please let me know if you have any additional topics for tomorrow's TSC meeting? Please find below the agenda so far:
* Update on the trustedfirmware.org survey for Board / TSC members (5 mins)
* Roadmap update for trustedfirmware.org projects: Trusted Firmware - M (by Anton Komlev, TF-M tech lead) (25 mins)
* AOB
Best regards,
Antonio
Hi All,
Please find the minutes from yesterday's meeting below.
Please let me know if any questions
Best regards,
Don - *Sent on behalf to the TSC Chairs*
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*Attendees*: Antonio De Angelis(Arm), David Brown(Linaro), Don,
Kangkang(FutureWei), Kevin Oerton(NXMLabs), Anton Komlev(Arm), Dan
Handley(Arm), Julius Werner(Google), Andrej Butok(NXP), Lionel
Debieve(ST), Eric
Finco(ST), Michael T(Renesas)
*Minutes*:
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Don: Quorum reached
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Dan: Welcome to Antonio (online) - taking on Abhishek’s role.
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Dan: Interested in chairing this call since transitioning?
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If interested, let Don know on the side and we can propose the change.
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Kevin: For continuity, it seems a good thing to have an Arm rep
chairing. Substitutions if the Arm rep can’t attend would be more
effective.
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Dan will chair
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MBed TLS Github location. Currently under Github and currently being
transitioned. Plan is to move to TF.org account. Maintainers are having
2nd thoughts. If repos are put in the organization account, Github is
flat, so sometimes hard to map multiple repos to one project. Access
control is also a concern. So plan to create a separate MBed TLS github
account.
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David: Is the mbed-tls available?
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Dan: Yes we have it
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Dan: Will run by the board
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Eric: Just MBed TLS or all projects?
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Dan: Separate accounts provide some healthy autonomy. Some are
blocked by reviews - Hafnium and TF-A use Gerrit for reviews.
Some tooling
helps with this but hasn’t been progressing.
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No objections from TSC
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Kevin: Breaking up to individual accounts makes sense, could have
“cross-pointers” to all other accounts in each one. Can use Github for
discussions integrated into Github
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Dan: Good point, and can use github wiki and other features if not a
“shared” project.
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Kevin - Lightning talk recorded here:
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https://linaro-org.zoom.us/rec/share/dN_VrMIH6jjBYEbYf9DYO_oBhAqeHp2BAyCTZA…
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Passcode: Tid4xb8&
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Don: Survey to TSC and Board? Thoughts?
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Consensus wan that both may be valuable.
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Could help to answer Dan’s question on the direction of the TSC
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Next month topics:
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Dan: Restarting roadmap presentations thru each project starting with
TF-M next month.
Hi TSC members
Just forwarding the below info to you too FYI
Dan.
From: Don Harbin via Board <board(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org>
Sent: 13 January 2022 00:11
To: board(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org
Subject: [Board] FYI - Upcoming session at FOSDEM (Feb 5 & 6) and more
Hi,
I hope this note finds you all well.
FOSDEM<https://fosdem.org/2022/>(Free and Open-source Software Developers' European Meeting) is coming up in early February, and we wanted to let you all know that a session will be presented entitled "Arm CCA enablement through the Trusted Firmware community project" by Charles Garcia-Tobin and our own Matteo Carlini. :) Session details can be found here<https://fosdem.org/2022/schedule/event/tee_arm_cca/>.
I'll also mention a couple of other items:
* Linaro is hosting a free 2-hour technical training session entitled "Kernel Debug Stories for Arm" on February 8th and 15th. Three slots are provided to help find a session that's time-zone friendly. Further details and registration can be found here<https://www.linaro.org/events/kernel-debug-stories-for-arm-linaro-connect-t…>. Feel free to share with any devs on your teams that may find it of interest
* A white paper from Linaro many of you may enjoy called "Confidential AI for MCUs" has been garnering lots of interest, so I wanted to share it. It can be downloaded here<https://www.linaro.org/iot-and-embedded> if interested.
If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me.
Thanks and best regards,
Don
Hi all
Can you please let me know if you have any topics for tomorrow's TSC meeting? So far I have:
* Change in Arm TSC representation and chair (see separate mail)
* Proposal for migrating Mbed TLS GitHub location
* Perhaps also revisit the wider TF.org GitHub presence
* Lightning talk on NXM usage of TF. Kevin - are you ready to do this?
* Identify any future lightning talks
Regards
Dan.
Hi All,
FYI, per Shebu, I'm adding both mbed-tls(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org and
psa-crypto(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org to the MBed TLS Tech Forum invites.
Please look for this in your inbox and accept it if you would like the
series added to your calendar.
- Note that this is a monthly meeting but you will see two invites, one
that is for Asia timezones and one for Europe/US. Just delete the series
that isn't timezone friendly for you.
- FYI, recall that this and other tech forums can be found in the meeting
calendar on the TF website <https://www.trustedfirmware.org/meetings/>.
If you see a meeting in that calendar, click on the entry and an option
comes up saying "copy to my calendar." It will import that single instance
into your personal calendar from there if you wish. I wasn't able to test
this feature with outlook, but it worked fine for google calendar.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best regards,
Don Harbin
TrustedFirmware Community Manager
don.harbin(a)linaro.org
Hi Abhishek, TSC representatives,
We're doing some changes when it comes to the Linaro TF TSC representatives.
- I'm stepping out (but I'm still around in Linaro).
- David Brown becomes the main Linaro TF TSC rep.
- Ruchika Gupta steps in as the backfill for David when he is unable to
attend.
Please update mailing-lists and meeting invitations etc accordingly.
Regards,
Joakim
Hi All,
Please find the minutes from this morning's meeting below.
Also, find attached Ruchika's presentation.
Best regards
Don Harbin - Sent on behalf of the TSC Chair
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Attendees: Don, Kevin Townsend(Linaro), Ruchika Gupta(Linaro), Julius
Werner(Google), Miklos Balint, David Brown(Linaro), Joakim Bech(Linaro),
Gyorgy Szing, Kangkang Shen(Futurewei), Abhishek Pandit(Arm), Lionel
DEBIEVE(ST),
Konstantin Karasev(OMP), Andrej Butok(NXP), Matteo, Kevin Oerton(NXM Labs)
Minutes:
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OP-TEE Roadmap: Ruchika - Linaro Security Working Group Tech Lead
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GET SLIDES
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Reviewed Focus areas
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OP-TEE and Virtualization
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Functional Safety Updates
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Proposal of task ownership shown
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Share H/W resources
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Roadmap - Details
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Note the Jira Tickets are public and accessible by the team
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Ruchika provided a brief overview of Stratos
<https://www.linaro.org/projects/#automotive_STR> (Linaro driven
Virtualization Project) and TS
<https://www.linaro.org/projects/#trusted-substrate_TS>(Linaro driven
Trusted Substrate project).
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KK: Re: Trusted Substrate - it’s a platform to support
firmware-level security features. Related to SOAFEE. Edge focused
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Abhishek: Partner Lightning Talks - round robin usage of TF
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Interest in lightning talks and sharing how their company is using
the output of TF.org, one Member share monthly in this meeting.
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Will push out the vote for doing this.
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KO: Initial target is to start in December?
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AP: Suggest starting in January
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KO: Will talk thru email, but pencil in Kevin for January
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Hi All,
Sorry a bit late for this week's meeting. We have -
* OPTEE roadmap presentation. (Please note that meeting has been moved 2 hours earlier.)
* Revisit - lightning talks proposal?
*
Any other agenda suggestions?
Thanks,
Abhishek
