Hi Olivier,
I'm trying to implement a relocatable OP-TEE binary so it can be
loaded at different physical addresses without the need to recompile
it. This means that in the case with Hafnium when changing
"load-address" or "entrypoint-offset" in the OP-TEE SP manifest
there's no need to recompile OP-TEE. For this to work OP-TEE must be
able to figure out which memory range it's supposed to reside in.
Currently, OP-TEE knows the entry point address from PC and "memory
size" from X0. However, the "memory size" is from the "load-address"
so "entrypoint-offset" must be subtracted from PC in order to know the
allocated memory range.
Do you have ideas on how OP-TEE at runtime can determine the allocated
memory range?
Thanks,
Jens
Hi, experts,
We are currently moving optee to a 36bit address to boot with environment
that hafnium runs at sel2 as spmc and optee runs at sel1 as sp.
Now we have moved hafnium to 0x880000000 and run successfully.
Then we tried moving optee to a 36bit address (0x89000000) as well.
Although hafnium and optee were successfully initialized on the primary cpu,
psci_cpu_on does not seem to be entered into when the secondary cpu is started.
The error is as follows:
https://github.com/OP-TEE/optee_os/issues/5895 <https://github.com/OP-TEE/optee_os/issues/5895 >
Is there any difference between the two cases
where hafnium and optee initialize the secondary cpu with different load_address?
The log print shows that the secondary cpu has not entered hafnium.
Could Hafnium be affected by the 36bit address when dealing with psci related transactions?
Regards,
Yuye.
Hi, Jens,
We seem to have found the answer following the comment you gave in the issue:
https://github.com/OP-TEE/optee_os/issues/5877 <https://github.com/OP-TEE/optee_os/issues/5877 >
The reason seems to be that the system has more non-secure memory than what OP-TEE is aware of.
When our system memory DRAM size is 32GB, optee has the following configuration for non-secure state memory:
#define DRAM1_BASE 0x880000000UL
#define DRAM1_SIZE 0x780000000UL
On another device, our system memory DRAM size is 64G, optee uses the above configuration for non-secure memory.
And xtest will not run stably.
In addition, I would like to ask you a few questions in order to understand the problem better.
1.
System has more non-secure memory than what OP-TEE is aware of, and optee will not run stably.
Why? What is the root cause of TEEC_ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY on the issue?
I'll do some research on it myself, meanwhile I hope you could give us some insights.
2.
When I execute the following command,
for i in {1.. 10}; do ./xtest&; done;
xtest prints out of order,
And the following error is reported:
E/TC:032 002 mobj_ffa_get_by_cookie:356 possible spinlock deadlock reminder 1
E/TC:070 mobj_ffa_unregister_by_cookie:310 possible spinlock deadlock reminder 1
E/TC:004 003 mobj_ffa_get_by_cookie:356 possible spinlock deadlock reminder 1
E/TC:058 001 mobj_ffa_get_by_cookie:356 possible spinlock deadlock reminder 1
Then the system hangs and restarts automatically.
Does optee currently support running multiple TAs in parallel?
Is the maximum number of TAs running in parallel equal to the number of vcpus?
3.
The values of MAX_XLAT_TABLES and CFG_CORE_HEAP_SIZE also seem to affect the stability of the system.
What configurations, such as the number of cores, should I pay attention to if I want to configure appropriate values for these options?
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Yuye.
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发送时间：2023年3月20日(星期一) 15:05
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主 题：Re: optee xtest cannot run success stably
Hi Yuye,
Comment below.
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 4:43 AM 梅建强(禹夜)
<meijianqiang.mjq(a)alibaba-inc.com> wrote:
> Hi, experts
>
> Recently, we are testing the stability for running optee xtest with environment that hafnium runs as SPMC and optee runs on SPMC as SP.
> When we reboot the system, xtest failed on some cases with TEEC_ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY.
> It seems to be that there is an insufficient memory allocation somewhere in the chain.
> We tried the following:
> Using Single core startup,
> Increased optee MAX_XLAT_TABLES size to 16,
> Increased optee CFG_CORE_HEAP_SIZE to 0x2000000,
> Increasing the size of optee CFG_TEE_RAM_VA_SIZE to 0x4000000,
> Increasing the size of hafnium heap_pages to 8192,
> But nothing seems to be working.
> Can you offer any help or suggestions?
It would help if you could pinpoint the source of the out-of-memory
error. I guess it happens somewhere during mobj_ffa_get_by_cookie(),
where especially thread_spmc_populate_mobj_from_rx() is interesting.
It could also be worth setting CFG_CORE_DUMP_OOM=y, it's easy to
enable but I'm afraid it's more of a long shot.
Cheers,
Jens
> Some other configuration for optee is attached in the issue:
> https://github.com/OP-TEE/optee_os/issues/5893 <https://github.com/OP-TEE/optee_os/issues/5893 >
>
> Regards,
> Yuye.
>
Hi, experts
Recently, we are testing the stability for running optee xtest with environment that hafnium runs as SPMC and optee runs on SPMC as SP.
When we reboot the system, xtest failed on some cases with TEEC_ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY.
It seems to be that there is an insufficient memory allocation somewhere in the chain.
We tried the following:
Using Single core startup,
Increased optee MAX_XLAT_TABLES size to 16,
Increased optee CFG_CORE_HEAP_SIZE to 0x2000000,
Increasing the size of optee CFG_TEE_RAM_VA_SIZE to 0x4000000,
Increasing the size of hafnium heap_pages to 8192,
But nothing seems to be working.
Can you offer any help or suggestions?
Some other configuration for optee is attached in the issue:
https://github.com/OP-TEE/optee_os/issues/5893 <https://github.com/OP-TEE/optee_os/issues/5893 >
Regards,
Yuye.
Hi,
With the introduction of FFA_CONSOLE_LOG ABI [1], we are intending to replace and remove support for HF_DEBUG_LOG.
This proposal is in review in the following stages:
1) Remove the dependency of hftest VMs on HF_DEBUG_LOG and move to FFA_CONSOLE_LOG [2]
2) Remove the support for HF_DEBUG_LOG (i.e. api_debug_log) from hafnium project. [3]
The adoption of FFA_CONSOLE_LOG will allow us to make use of its ability to log multiple characters at a time, as opposed to HF_DEBUG_LOG which writes one character at a time.
This improvement will be enabled in a future patch. Also, should [3] be adopted, we will make accompanying changes to tf-a-tests Cactus-based tests.
We want to know if there are any concerns about removing support for HF_DEBUG_LOG at this time as we realize other downstream SPs may rely on its support.
Thank you,
Kathleen Capella
[1] feat(console_log): add FFA_CONSOLE_LOG ABI https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/hafnium/hafnium/+/15334
[2] feat(ffa_console_log): replace hf_debug_log https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/hafnium/hafnium/+/19513
[3] refactor: remove support for HF_DEBUG_LOG https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/hafnium/hafnium/+/19681
Hi, Olivier
I have forgotten one thing, hafnium will invalidate the data cache for the whole image.
adrp x0, ORIGIN_ADDRESS
adrp x1, image_end
sub x1, x1, x0
bl arch_cache_data_invalidate_range
I solved this problem by using an address-fixed variable outside the data section instead of the global variabal malloced in data section.
In addition, I would like to ask that
if multiple optees run on the Hafnium, how to switch the vCPUs of different optees?
If one of the optees is expected to be boot under the host OS (post-boot load), how to switch the vCPUs?
Thanks for the support.
Regards,
Yuye.
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发送时间：2023年3月11日(星期六) 21:36
收件人：Olivier Deprez <Olivier.Deprez(a)arm.com>
抄 送：Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander(a)linaro.org>; hafnium(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org <hafnium(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org>
主 题：Re: Multi-OPTEE run with Hafnium
Hi, Olivier,
The framework message definition that I mentioned is refered in the FF-A Specification.
I hope I didn't misinterpret it.
The work flow is interpreted as follows:
When the system run into the host OS,
I want implemented the post-boot load optee as mentioned in the email with Hafnium as SPMC
https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-A/trusted-firmware-a/+/18635 <https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-A/trusted-firmware-a/+/18635 >
However, when the intialization about hafnium and optee has been finished,
SMC_RET8 instruction failed reback from spmd to optee driver.
I suspect that there may be some special handling of context needed here.
Can you provide some suggestions or help?
Regards,
Yuye.
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发件人：Olivier Deprez <Olivier.Deprez(a)arm.com>
发送时间：2023年3月7日(星期二) 16:55
收件人：梅建强(禹夜) <meijianqiang.mjq(a)alibaba-inc.com>
抄 送：Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander(a)linaro.org>; hafnium(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org <hafnium(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org>
主 题：Re: Multi-OPTEE run with Hafnium
Hi Yuye,
I sense those questions are related to downstream changes of yours, and I may not be able to provide accurate answers without seeing the code.
Please clarify if the questions are related to the upstream version of Hafnium.
See additional comments below [OD].
Regards,
Olivier.
From: 梅建强(禹夜) <meijianqiang.mjq(a)alibaba-inc.com>
Sent: 06 March 2023 14:15
To: Olivier Deprez <Olivier.Deprez(a)arm.com>
Cc: Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander(a)linaro.org>
Subject: Re: Multi-OPTEE run with Hafnium
Hi, Olivier,
On this question, I should add something based on the results of my tests.
When I enter Hafnium through framwork message, the value of the global variable remains the same.
[OD] please explain what is a framework message.
When I re-enter the Hafnium image_entry via spmd_init, the global variable is restored to its original value.
[OD] I'm not sure about the flow here, it depends about where the variable is declared and whether you have local changes to the hafnium boot flows.
Do you know why?
Regards,
Yuye.
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发送时间：2023年3月6日(星期一) 17:00
收件人：Olivier Deprez <olivier.deprez(a)arm.com>
抄 送：Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander(a)linaro.org>
主 题：Multi-OPTEE run with Hafnium
Hi, Olivier,
I want to ask a question about variable modification.
Before this, let me explain the background about the question.
Now, I have run into host OS with Hafnium as spmc and OPTEE as SP.
Then the optee driver will send a framwork message to Hafnium to inform it that whether the current state of the host OS is booting or running,
[OD] What is a 'framework message' in this context? Is this a custom direct request from driver to optee?
so that Hafnium could know which vm node(SP) it should load and init at current state.
[OD] Can you please explain why this is required?
This current state is represented by a global variable.
[OD] do you mean a variable in Hafnium's BSS space?
Will the global variable change when message flow exit Hafnium and enter it again?
[OD] This depends in which section the variable is declared (see above).
Regards,
Yuye.
Hi, Olivier,
The framework message definition that I mentioned is refered in the FF-A Specification.
I hope I didn't misinterpret it.
The work flow is interpreted as follows:
When the system run into the host OS,
I want implemented the post-boot load optee as mentioned in the email with Hafnium as SPMC
https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-A/trusted-firmware-a/+/18635 <https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-A/trusted-firmware-a/+/18635 >
However, when the intialization about hafnium and optee has been finished,
SMC_RET8 instruction failed reback from spmd to optee driver.
I suspect that there may be some special handling of context needed here.
Can you provide some suggestions or help?
Regards,
Yuye.
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发件人：Olivier Deprez <Olivier.Deprez(a)arm.com>
发送时间：2023年3月7日(星期二) 16:55
收件人：梅建强(禹夜) <meijianqiang.mjq(a)alibaba-inc.com>
抄 送：Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander(a)linaro.org>; hafnium(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org <hafnium(a)lists.trustedfirmware.org>
主 题：Re: Multi-OPTEE run with Hafnium
Hi Yuye,
I sense those questions are related to downstream changes of yours, and I may not be able to provide accurate answers without seeing the code.
Please clarify if the questions are related to the upstream version of Hafnium.
See additional comments below [OD].
Regards,
Olivier.
From: 梅建强(禹夜) <meijianqiang.mjq(a)alibaba-inc.com>
Sent: 06 March 2023 14:15
To: Olivier Deprez <Olivier.Deprez(a)arm.com>
Cc: Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander(a)linaro.org>
Subject: Re: Multi-OPTEE run with Hafnium
Hi, Olivier,
On this question, I should add something based on the results of my tests.
When I enter Hafnium through framwork message, the value of the global variable remains the same.
[OD] please explain what is a framework message.
When I re-enter the Hafnium image_entry via spmd_init, the global variable is restored to its original value.
[OD] I'm not sure about the flow here, it depends about where the variable is declared and whether you have local changes to the hafnium boot flows.
Do you know why?
Regards,
Yuye.
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发件人：梅建强(禹夜) <meijianqiang.mjq(a)alibaba-inc.com>
发送时间：2023年3月6日(星期一) 17:00
收件人：Olivier Deprez <olivier.deprez(a)arm.com>
抄 送：Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander(a)linaro.org>
主 题：Multi-OPTEE run with Hafnium
Hi, Olivier,
I want to ask a question about variable modification.
Before this, let me explain the background about the question.
Now, I have run into host OS with Hafnium as spmc and OPTEE as SP.
Then the optee driver will send a framwork message to Hafnium to inform it that whether the current state of the host OS is booting or running,
[OD] What is a 'framework message' in this context? Is this a custom direct request from driver to optee?
so that Hafnium could know which vm node(SP) it should load and init at current state.
[OD] Can you please explain why this is required?
This current state is represented by a global variable.
[OD] do you mean a variable in Hafnium's BSS space?
Will the global variable change when message flow exit Hafnium and enter it again?
[OD] This depends in which section the variable is declared (see above).
Regards,
Yuye.
