Hi,

 

There was already a discussion on the SAU config issues that covers this discussion.

https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/archives/list/tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org/thread/ZYU5ZDUJVVKWWXYBO7GSBJE2CKCL2XNB/

And a reminder to check SAU limit address settings:

https://lists.trustedfirmware.org/archives/list/tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org/thread/7ZQKWELE2IA2SDG3W5CDKFLYK7EP4NLF/

 

The “-1” could be particular to SAU because SAU does a round-up on limit address.

That’s how it works. Please refer to the Arm v8m architecture specification or the examples in the above link.

Although it’s hard to define what is a “limit” because the limit address can be either included or excluded in different use cases, I do agree putting a “-1” in any region definitions could be confusing.

 

Like Bohdan suggested, we could move this “-1” to the SAU configuration codes.

And even provide some utility Macros for SAU region operations to ensure both the alignments “limits/boundaries” .

 

Thanks,

Kevin

 

From: David Brown via TF-M <tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 5:56 AM
To: Chris.Brand@infineon.com
Cc: tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org
Subject: [TF-M] Re: Region Limits

 

We have been seeing some issues with this specific value for some platforms. It also doesn't seem to handle the alignment properly, and I suspect the veneer region either ends up open to a lot more addresses than intended, or in other cases, doesn't work at all.

 

I can't find good documentation on how the SAU regions work, but if it is anything like the MPU regions, the validity would use something like:

 

if ((address & ~align) == base)

 

I'm concerned that a lot of testing is happening on qemu, which does the range testing with < and >, which is not how it is implemented in the hardware (I think, as I said, I haven't found any documentation on this).

 

But, yes, the limit needs to be the last valid address, regardless of alignment. Generally, the base needs to be a multiple of 1 greater than this value for the check to be meaningful.

 

David

 

 

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 11:58 AM Chris.Brand--- via TF-M <tf-m@lists.trustedfirmware.org> wrote:

Hi,

 

Looking at platform/ext/common/tfm_hal_platform_v8m.c, this line stands out as quite odd:

    .veneer_limit =

        (uint32_t)&REGION_NAME(Image$$, VENEER_ALIGN, $$Limit) - 1,

 

It seems that the various “$$Limit” values that exist within TF-M aren’t actually “limits” in the usual meaning of the word (the last value within the range) but are instead the first value *outside* the range. Elsewhere in TF-M we do seem to use the word “limit” in the conventional way.

 

I worry that this could lead to errors around the boundaries, particularly as some functions we use to check ranges take a “limit” parameter – we could easily see code that looks correct but that actual does the wrong thing, like

ARM_MPC_ConfigRegion(REGION_NAME(Image$$, ER_VENEER, $$Base),

                                              REGION_NAME(Image$$, VENEER_ALIGN, $$Limit, attr);

Or a similar call to check_address_range().

 

For example, I suspect that this is a bug in the Nuvoton M2354 platform caused by this issue:

platform/ext/target/nuvoton/m2354/target_cfg.c:

    .veneer_limit = (uint32_t)&REGION_NAME(Image$$, VENEER_ALIGN, $$Limit),

 

It’s obviously a big thing to fix, but it does look to me to be worthwhile…

 

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